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Re: 2007 A.M.E.C. Historic Ice Races! February 24th and 25th
Nice shirts!!
Ut-oh... whats happens if we do not race on Lake George?
Perhaps we should plan for a street show and parade our cars up and down the street. We could throw out free DVD's to show what it would have been like.....lol...
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Re: 2007 A.M.E.C. Historic Ice Races! February 24th and 25th
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Nice shirts!!
Ut-oh... whats happens if we do not race on Lake George?
The same thing as last year, wear them proudly this summer. The average person looking at and asking about the event doesn't know or care where it was held. They were a gift and I really love to wear mine.
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Mike Grieco's Saab before and after!
Wow! Mike and his father have done an excellent job refurbishing their 1960 Saab 93f for ice racing this weekned.
OK, now for the bad news though. 
In Mike's words:
"HELLO MIKE, I AM SORRY TO TELL YOU WE WONT MAKE IT THIS YEAR THE CAR IS NOT UP TO PAR JUST YET GOT THE BRAKES AND STUDED TIRES BUT AFTER SEVERAL ATTEMPTS AT THE 3 AIR CRAFT CARBS I FOUND A BAD REED VALVE IN CYLINDER #2 HAD BAD EFFECT ON PERFORMANCE AND I HAD TO GET SOME CUSTOM MADE BY BOYESEN COMPANY IN PA. JUST GOT THESE DUAL REEDS WITH REV PLATE MADE FOR THE SAAB THIS WEEK AND NOT MUCH TIME TO COMPLETE IT AND WORK OUT ANY BUGS FOR THIS MONTH'S ICE RACE. I REALLY WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME NEW KIND OF WINTER FUN!
MIKE GRIECO
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Re: 2007 A.M.E.C. Historic Ice Races! February 24th and 25th
That is going to be one awesome little car!!
Excellent work!!
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Re: 2007 A.M.E.C. Historic Ice Races! February 24th and 25th
Hello Historic ice racers,
We've got some important updates on this weekend's event. Here are the main points:
1.Racing for the Historic class will go as planned on Lake George this weekend. The Friday afternoon test and tune session will start at 2:30 pm. Saturday's full Historic program and Sunday morning's single bonus heat race will stand.
2. Due to the huge amount of heavy snow on the lake, we were not able to plow the huge 1.5 mile road course like we had last year. We will be running on a much smaller oval track. It is plenty wide and big for the Historic class. See you all there this weekend.
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Mike Kamm
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Re: 2007 A.M.E.C. Historic Ice Races! February 24th and 25th
Saab & SAAB Ice Racers,
Hello. I am looking for all photos of the SAABs present for a writeup on saabhistory.com
I have a writeup I am developing and would like to post it later this week for everyone to read and learn about.
I understand that there were over a dozen in attendance. If everyone that owns one of these Saab models, could you provide me some photos of your vehicle at the event?
With the photos you provide me, there could easily be future writeups on individuals SAAB ice racers including your restoration projects.
I look forward to your response and thank you for your time.
Best,
Ryan
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2/25/2007, 7:21 pm
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2007 A.M.E.C. Historic Ice Races - A Great Success!
Wow, what a weekend. I think it's safe to say that A.M.E.C.'s second Historic Ice Racing weekend exceeded everyone's expectations!
We had the two main ingredients we were missing last year - the weather and the location. We were fortunate to have been able to hold this event where it all started back in 1965, in beautiful Lake George. We were treated to sunny skies, temps in the upper 20's, and virtually no wind. What more could you ask for right?
The Cars were the stars......
Take a look at this action. Sam Patterson's Blizzak equipped Saab 96 was running in front of some street stud and even some screw tire class cars! The mud on the front fender illustrates that Sam flat towed this car to the lake [behind a Saab 9000] all the way from Saquoit, NY.
Pennsylvania's Steve Garrett was having the time of his life sliding his 1960 Austin Healy Bugeye Sprite through the corners on his home built screw tires. He was among the quickest all weekend. There's only one car he couldn't quite keep up with......
...and that was Bruce Turk's fabulous 2-stroke Saab 96, with it's finely tuned 750 GT rally engine under the bonnet. Bruce was running on a donated pair of 30+ year old home built screw tires.
Here was one of the greatest battles in Historic racing all weekend. The classic FWD vs RWD street stud match up between Bill Lass and Mike "Fuzzy" Space. Bill is driving his '68 Saab 96 with V4 power, and Fuzzy is right there with the oldest vintage car of this event - a '59 Volvo 544! Get this: both of these guy's drove these cars over 600 miles to and from this event! Bill drove his Saab in from Buffalo, NY and Mike his Volvo from Bethlehem, PA! Yes, this is the car that appeared in Classic Motorsports magazine this fall in the "Ran when parked" column. The amazing thing is that Mike has had never driven this car more than 15 miles from home before. Both men drove their classics to the race, raced all weekend, and drove them home. Just like it was done 40 years ago!
And how about Bob Addis' 1964 Corvair Monza Spyder? This guy is the real deal, running top down and during the first race, sporting a pair of chrome framed driving goggles! This car brought back many fond memories for some of our senior members, who were there 40 years ago when air cooled flat sixes with studded tires populated the RWD class. 
Mike Space's 544 followed by Casey Creamer's '69 Alfa Romeo Berlina and Tom Baird's beautiful '73 Volvo P1800ES.
Taking the checkered flag in front of about a thousand spectators with the Lac du Saint Sacrement cruise boat in the background.....only on Lake George folks!
I've got more, just give me a chance to get some more of this great action up on the boards for you all to enjoy. Hey these are only my grainy old 1 megapixel images. Wait until uncle Jeff posts up a few of his professional grade images!
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The fun continues.....
The father and son team of Daniel and Richard Dobbins came ready for battle this year with a freshly installed "Twin Traction" differential in their V8 4 barrel equipped '62 Studebaker Lark. Hailing from Long Island, they drove this baby to and from the races this again this year. "Trailer's are for sissys"! says Dan.
First stop was at my house on Friday morning, where we restudded the two rear tires from last year's event. Richard had lost every single stud from his then new Winterforce tires last year. We upped the size of the studs this year and then mounted them onto the car for the drive up to the Lake. Putting street miles on studded tires allows the studs to properly seat themselves into the rubber.
Richard takes the inside line through turn 4 with Bruce Turk using the outside groove.
Casey Creamer brought out the very first Italian car to the Historic Ice races. His RWD 1969 Alfa Romeo Berlina was quite an advanced car for it's day. It's two liter engine sports an alloy hemispherical twin cam cylinder head, with mechanical fuel injection, and four wheel disc brakes! Casey ran on studded Hakka 2's.
Here he is side by side with Bill Lass' Saab on the backstretch.
Eric Nelson's #34 V4 powered Saab 96 is an actual survivor car from A.M.E.C.'s glory days of ice racing back in the seventies. Formerly owned and raced by Dave Miller from NJ, this car was running on the very same long stud winter tires that it did back then. Talk about originality!
A last minute surprise entry was Mike "Fuzzy" Space from Bethelehem, PA. He is seen here with his "long distance award" trophy from Saturday night's awards banquet. It was a pleasure meeting Mike. Wow what a character this guy is! Fun to be around is an understatement. Take a look at his unique front license plate....
Here's an under hood pic of Mike's 544. Hmmm, the paint on the engine looks better than the outside of the car!
What a nice gesture: Steve and Kris Garrett offered me to take a spin in their '60 Austin Healy Sprite on the course after the races. I'm a big fan of nimble, lightweight automobiles. Wow RWD is exciting on the ice!
Hotted-up 1275 cc engine in the Garrett's Sprite.
We didn't have a hard luck award, but if we did it would have had to gone to High Falls, New York's RiK Rydant. RiK's '66 Saab 96 two-stroker had chronic problems with loading up and stalling. I learned from the Saab experts this weekend that early two stroke cars need their exhaust systems replaced [or cleaned out] occasionally because they get clogged with carbon and burned oil deposits. We're pretty sure RiK's tiny exhaust system is almost totally clogged. RiK designed and produced our excellent event T-shirts and tech stickers. No one supports our event to the extent that RiK does! We love ya RiK!
A shot from the pits. Historic cars were displayed front and center all day on Saturday. The Saab 99 is owned and driven by Eric's son Matt Nelson. This car ran on Blizzaks and won one of the heat races outright!
There is always so much to see and do at the Lake George Winter Carnival. If you could find a place to park, this was the place to be on Saturday!
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Re: 2007 A.M.E.C. Historic Ice Races! February 24th and 25th
Excellent job reporting on the event Mike and an equally excellent job setting it up and arranging everything. Mike Kamm also set up the Saturday night dinner at the Holiday Inn. It’s always wonderful when all the ice racers Historic and regular have a central place to meet, stay, and eat together. It made it another one of those Lake George weekend events we wish for every year!
Thanks Mike!
Dave Burnham
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 Re: 2007 A.M.E.C. Historic Ice Races! February 24th and 25th
Hey Mike, I just wanted to say Kris and I had another great time. If you decide to do it again count me in. Thanks for your hard work in organizing the historic event and thanks to all your members that put together a great venue for the weekend. I wonder how the Lotus would handle with screw tires .
Thanks again, Steve & Kris
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