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AMEC Autocross at Albany Saratoga Speedway November 7th or 8th
Hi all, when the word got out that Albany Saratoga Speedway in Malta NY was going to remove the clay from the track to expose the pavement for some late season races the guys in AMEC started talking about running an autocross there.
Some history, AMEC ran autocrosses at the track in the late 60's to the mid 70's when they covered the pavement with clay to turn it into a dirt track. The AMEC autocrosses at that time were well attended and generally considered some of the best and highest speed autocrosses around. The club would regularly pull 60 to 80 entrants when other local clubs were getting 25 to 40 in a parking lot. Since its part of our history it makes sense to try and do it again. Nobody knows if this will be a one time deal or possibly they will leave the track paved and we could get back to a summer filled with events like the old days. AMEC did may summer events all though the early part of the clubs history. Back in the day we had two mailing lists one for the winter and one for the summer. Both lists had hundreds of names on each list. Summer events are part of the clubs history and that’s why some of us old timers in the club keep trying to revive summer events.
We asked Mr. Excitement Darryl Carl to check with Bruce Richards at the track to see if he would be OK with running a fall autocross there and he said yes.
So at this time here is what Darryl and we have worked out. We have a tentative autocross scheduled for Saturday November 7th with a rain date of Sunday November 8th. The weather can be pretty crappy that time of year so that’s why we decided to do the event on a Saturday which isn't normal most of the time.
We are having a meeting soon to figure out the details. This is all assuming the pavement still is in race able condition under the clay and that will be known in about a week or two.
What we do know is it will be an easy fast course just like the old days. There will be bathrooms, food concessions, and grand stands so bring the family and have a fun day with your car. It will be open to most all regular cars and all forms of race cars, probably no SUV's or big trucks but we are working on rules and classes. The other thing we want to emphasize is that this is going to be fun!
All are welcome you don’t have to be an AMEC member to run so spread the word, we will need a lot of entries because its going to cost a lot for the club to rent the track and pay the other expenses.
How often can you get to run on the pavement at Albany Saratoga Speedway? Apparently only about once every 15 or 20 years so don't miss your opportunity to be part of it. I will be there with my Maserati Bi Turbo to heat up the tires!
Dave Burnham
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Re: AMEC Autocross at Albany Saratoga Speedway November 7th or 8th
To see how nice Albany Saratoga Speedway looked back in the day (1968 on pavement) at an Autocross look at the photos on our 50th anniversary page that Greg Ricks took. Scroll down the page a little bit and click on the photos.
http://www.icerace.com/50th_Anniversary_Photos.htm
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Re: AMEC Autocross at Albany Saratoga Speedway November 7th or 8th
This is terrific news and I am really looking forward to this proposed event. Leave it to A.M.E.C. to offer the most unique and exciting automotive events found anywhere! 
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Re: AMEC Autocross at Albany Saratoga Speedway November 7th or 8th
this could be HUGE
spread the word fast.
I am meeting with Bruce again later next week to finalize all the details so we need to complete some thing for or by Wednesday of next week for the AMEC autocross meeting at glocks house..
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Re: AMEC Autocross at Albany Saratoga Speedway November 7th or 8th
Just read in this mornings paper that the dirt had been removed and that the pavement was in "excellent" condition.
My quotation marks.
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Re: AMEC Autocross at Albany Saratoga Speedway November 7th or 8th
I am curious about the layout of the track. Is it basically slalom racing around the track?
What timing system is used?
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Re: AMEC Autocross at Albany Saratoga Speedway November 7th or 8th
TBD.
It is an autocross, so there will be some cones to avoid.
Stay tuned, more details will be forthcoming.
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9/26/2009, 9:31 am
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Re: AMEC Autocross at Albany Saratoga Speedway November 7th or 8th
AMEC owns some timers that hook onto the car (with a magnet) and pass by a receiver to start and stop there internal clocks. I think we have 4 of them so we can time up to 4 cars at a time or have a round robin deal of timers being hooked up onto the next car to go out as the ones becomes available as cars come in. It takes a couple of people to do it efficiently. If we get someone to use a lap top for recording the results in Excel then we are completely set for the timing and scoring of the cars. We last used the system at our studs on ice track day time trial events in winter.
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Re: AMEC Autocross at Albany Saratoga Speedway November 7th or 8th
OK all, here are the details you've been waiting for...
A.M.E.C. will be holding a "high" speed autocross on the pavement of Albany Saratoga Speedway 4/10ths mile oval on November 7th. This is not your usual parking lot deal with tight gates and twisty corners. This is for people who like to open it up and carry some speed through the pylon gates as they traverse the recently uncovered asphalt in Malta.
When: Saturday November 7th 2009 (rain date November 8th) Registration opens at 8 AM. First car off at 10 AM.
Where: Albany Saratoga Speedway on the Pavement!
Why: Because AMEC used to put on some of the most well attended fastest autocrosses around at Albany Saratoga Speedway. This was from the late 60’s until about 1976 when they covered the track with clay. “Back in the day” AMEC would pull 80 entrants to an autocross when other clubs running in parking lots were getting 30 mostly because of the venue. The course will be simple and fast, yet challenging. You will get 2 laps per run with a few gates here and there and a slalom on one straight away. A minimum of 3 runs per car and more if we can fit them in. We'll run right until dusk.
Scoring: Will be with an electronic scoring system.
Cost: $40 per driver. Spectator admission is free.
What to bring: any car that is safe to drive, street car, or race car, a helmet built in the last 15 years. Once again, spectator admission is free so bring your family and have fun watching from the grandstands. The track will have food for sale and bathrooms.
Prizes: Yup we will have trophies, this is a fun event. There are no year-end points battles so you can come for fun and will get a trophy if you do well in your class.
Classes: There will be a minimal number of classes for ease of registration and classing:
1. Stock Up to 2.5 liters
2. Stock Over 2.5 liters
3. Prepared Up to 2.5 liters
4. Prepared Over 2.5 liters
5. Modified Up to 2.5 liters
6. Modified Over 2.5 liters
7. Open Class - Open wheel and home built race cars.
STOCK- Street driven with no modifications. Air filter and intake, cat back exhaust or coffee can muffler allowed.
PREPARED- Street driven with modifications to the engine and or suspension.
MODIFIED - All other street type vehicles. Anything with DOT "R" compound tires. ALL turbo cars.
OPEN - Open wheel and home built race cars.
Pre-register: If you would like to attend please let us know, this is an expensive day of fun for our club and we need a certain number of participants to break even. To let us know if you will be coming send an E mail to Dave Burnham at racing48 [at) nycap.rr (dot] com or call him at 518 875 6956.
Current list of drivers signed up:
1. Dave Burnham - Maserati Biturbo
2. Darryl Carl - Saab Aero-Plane
3. Richard Vedder - 2000 Ford ZX2 S/R
4. Mike Kamm - 1993 Sentra SE-R
5. Jim ? - 2005 Dodge Magnum R/T
6. Eric Prescott - 1999 Ford ZX2
7. Mark Knibbs -2000 Ford ZX2
8. Greg Cuda - 1999 Mazda Miata Sport
9. Susan Cuda - 1999 Mazda Miata Sport
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We're shooting for 60 cars.......
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Re: AMEC Autocross at Albany Saratoga Speedway November 7th or 8th
Well geez, I should drive a Saab of some sort. Briefly thought of the mini monster...that passed quickly..
So thats it. A Saab...which one? IDK.
Darryl 
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