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Gaditanos raising their own .
Well, I decided to try & let my Gads raise a round . Two pairs are raising successfully so far . Both pairs lost one baby each , so just a single baby each . So far so good . We check them thru out the day checking their crops ,making sure nothing is building up in the crop . I only feed them once a day giving them a little more than usual . Interesting enough they spread their feed intake out thru the day . I have one more pair I'm letting set in a community loft . I don't know if this will fly , as there are a few mated pairs in there . Will keep you posted .
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May/3/2008, 5:45 am
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Re: Gaditanos raising their own .
Good luck! I'd be careful not to experiment with your best birds.
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May/6/2008, 7:25 am
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Re: Gaditanos raising their own .
 Dumb me, I did test one that will really help our line . BUT in a sense for a good reason . The man I purchased the bird from gave me the queerest look when I told him I was using fosters & wouldn't let them raise their own . So I went back to him again & asked him if he let his birds raise there own , he said of course .lol He says he has never had a problem with sour crop .
So far so good . Their babies look really good . I almost forgot to band them ,since I was too worried about problems arising .
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Re: Gaditanos raising their own .
His birds must have a smaller crop than mine. The larger the crop the more possibilities of sour crop. But if you make them too small you lose type and a lot of the charm of the breed. I am beginning to think tightness of the skin and positioning of the crop has a lot to do with it as well. When the skin is thicker, stronger and tighter, I believe it can handle the rigors of life much easier and not have any crop problems. The same with the positioning of the crop. I had an awesome Red Check **** that had the most dynamic personality of any of my birds. I bought him from Florida for a lot of money, but he had chronic crop problems and I finally had to cull him, but I did get some of his babies. His crop hung forwards more than upwards. If it hangs forwards or down, it's more prone to sag when the bird drinks too much
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Re: Gaditanos raising their own .
Update...
Well they made it till just about the 3rd week .I had to pull both babies , one got splayed leg ,the other got kicked out of the nest bowl got it's leg caught in the wire ,sat for a while apparently, the leg swelled up .So both were brought in .I'll probably have to cull the one caught in the wire as it's hip keeps popping out of place & it throws it's whole body back .
Interesting enough I could see a difference in the babies where their crops were going to be placed .The California birds have bigger crops , their baby's crop sat quite a bit lower down .
Also all parents recouped with no problems . My white pair are now raising a batch in a loft with two other pairs . Their crops are smaller though , but they have not abandon them , which was a major problem before . I hope to get some pictures up here soon .Life has been busy on our little bird farm .
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Re: Gaditanos raising their own .
Here's a site of some Gaditanos in Spain
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Re: Gaditanos raising their own .
I have a pair of large cropped Gaditanos raising their own. They set real well and hatched both of them out. They are having a hard time (or at least the **** is because he has a larger crop) feeding the babies. At 4 days old I had to remove one to a Foster pair because it wasn't fed today and is weak. The other one looks fine.
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Re: Gaditanos raising their own .
So far were on our second round , eggs should be hatching any day . Everybody so far has sat & raised one squeaker . Well accept the two squeakers I pulled & I'm not letting the Cali birds set yet, as I want some extra offspring from them . I'm hoping this round will click in their heads . I swear it was the second egg that hatched ,that survived out of each hatch .I think it had to click in their heads that they were suppose to take care of them . It could very well be, since they are use to somebody else raising their young . The whites did raise 2 ,but they are smaller cropped . Their young look better for crop size, which is nice . I personally want my to raise their own . I have enough show birds that are just horrid parents , I can't see why you would want to lose this trait , it just makes no sense other than to get to your goal quicker .
I can understand why you would need to take care in breeding the large cropped birds , but the parenting skills would be a nice trait to keep .
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Re: Gaditanos raising their own .
Did you read my article on sour crop and Gaditanos? In there Rene Kruter from Holland told me what some of them do over there with Gaditanos so they can raise their own and never have any crop problems for any reason. I will quote him from the article:
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Another method is the BH. You probably know this method. I only use the BH when I like to have the original parents raise there own young and there is a high risk of sour crop. In Holland some people prefer to make the crop smaller permanently. You pull a piece of skin at the lower part of the crop and place a rubber band over the skin you like to remove. The blood circulation has stopped and the skin will fall off over a period of time. Not my preference but it could help a bird that has sour crop all the time and it is absolutely painless for the bird.
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Re: Gaditanos raising their own .
I put the baby down that was abandoned by the original parents. My guess is he went to long with no food and it weakened him. The other one and the Gaditano parents are doing fine, so far.
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