pmcmurry
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Crashland in neutral territory
Crashland in neutral territory if it is within fuel range: Sweden, if the target is Kiel, Heide, Tutow, Peenemunde, Swinemunde or Stettin; Switzerland, if the target is Friedrichshaven, Munich, Augsburg, Ulm, Bingen, Mulhouse, Dijon or Lyon; Russian territory, if the target is Berlin, Dresden, Salzburg, Prauge or Pilsen, and the date is January, 1945, or later.
This option would be presented to the user if the appropriate situation occurs during the course of the mission.
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Jul/1/2004, 17:01
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gyrene251
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Re: Crashland in neutral territory
I would like to see this implemented. Gives another choice to the player.
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Jul/4/2004, 18:54
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Re: Crashland in neutral territory
Cool! A reply! 
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Jul/4/2004, 19:48
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Re: Crashland in neutral territory
15th AF missions would not be allowed to crashland in Switzerland: If the plane is crippled enough that it needs to head for neutral territory, it would have a hard time making it over the Alps. (The land in northern Switzerland isn't as mountainous.) Maybe making an exception if the target is Regensburg, and the bomber is on the return trip, since that would place the bomber north of the Alps.
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Jul/7/2004, 10:39
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JHaygood
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Re: Crashland in neutral territory
I would like to see this implemented as well. This was always a choice for pilots and flight crew to decide along the way.
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Jul/14/2004, 14:14
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Re: Crashland in neutral territory
I have some ideas:
The bomber would have to bomb the target, or make a pass over it if the doors are jammed. (Prior to the target, the bomber would make an abort decision, thus turning around to head home.) After the release point, the emulator turns the bomber around prepatory to beginning its return trip. (The first part of which is a second turn in the target zone.) After the RP, the bomber can no longer abort. Since the bomb run has been completed, it wouldn't make sense.
Since the bomber is no longer able to abort, after the RP is when the ability to head for neutral territory ought to begin.
In the case of targets in eastern Germany (e.g. Dresden), the pilot would have to decide in the second target zone to continue flying eastwards, or return home. (Otherwise they would start flying back west, then have to turn around and head east a second time which would make no sense.)
Targets in northern Germany (e.g. Peenemunde) would have to decide by zone 10 of the return trip whether to head for Sweden or continue towards England.
For targets in southern Germany, the flight path is somewhat parallel to theSwiss border, rather than the more perpendicular path relative to Sweden or Russian-held territory. Therefore, the pilot would have more zones to make his decision. For instance, a mission to Munich would have until zone 9 (Ulm) to decide, a mission to Augsburg would have until zone 9 (Ulm) to decide, and of course a mission to Ulm would have to decide in the target zone.
For 15th AF missions to Regensburg, the pilot would have to decide before his bomber reached the Alps.
Once the decision has been made to fly towards neutral territory, it cannot be reversed. Depending on the distance from the bomber to neutral territory, it would then have to fly 1 or 2 zones over hostile territory before arriving over the neutral territory. The bomber would then go through normal landing on land (other than the base) procedures.
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Jul/16/2004, 11:06
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Re: Crashland in neutral territory
I would also add Turkey as a neutral crashland site, as I saw information this weekend about Allied bombers being interned. I imagine they were on flights to Romania, Bulgaria or Greece.
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Jul/26/2004, 11:19
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Re: Crashland in neutral territory
I think Turkey was an option only until after the invasion of Italy when the Bombers were flying out of Libya. A couple of bombers from the low level raid on Polesti did fly to Turkey. Once the bases are opened up in Sicily and Southern Italy, I'd think only targets in Romania would offer Turkey as an option.
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Jul/26/2004, 19:05
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Re: Crashland in neutral territory
Just eyeballing it (http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&formtype=search&countryid=RO&addtohistory=&country=RO&city=Ploesti), the distance from Ploesti to Foggia is about 3 times the distance of Ploesti to Turkey. (Foggia is north of Bari, near that "thumb" that points out of Italy towards Alabania.)
Given the 15th AF map (which I have not modified), the targets near Turkey are Ploesti, Bucharest, Sofia and Piraeus. Everything else is probably closer to Foggia than Turkey.
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Jul/26/2004, 19:38
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