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I think George derserved it, all the singers excepts andy muir will get contracts as where a dancer would got much follow up. I have heard today though that doctors have told George not to dance again because he has a rare spin disease - has anyone else heard this?

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I don't understand your comments Turpin. I actually thought it was a really good final.



I wasn't commenting on the quality of the acts, it's the biased comments from the judges. If they like the act then they will glaze over the mistakes to influence the audience. It's just littered with inconsistencies (basically assessed by how much money Simon Cowell thinks he can make from them), for example...

George - should have been slated for not coming up with a new routine.

Nemesis - took stick for not being completely in time when they had only 24hrs to rehearse their new routine. George had 2 or 3 extra days.

Strike - completely out of time for most of their routine but the judges liked them so it wasn't even mentioned.

The young girl - chose a rubbish song that no-one knows, which is why she didn't win. Song choice not mentioned.

Andy Muir - they slated his song choice then it came out that he didn't choose it.

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I don't understand your comments Turpin. I actually thought it was a really good final.



I wasn't commenting on the quality of the acts, it's the biased comments from the judges. If they like the act then they will glaze over the mistakes to influence the audience. It's just littered with inconsistencies (basically assessed by how much money Simon Cowell thinks he can make from them), for example...

George - should have been slated for not coming up with a new routine. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND HE WAS UNABLE TO REHERSE AND ALL THE OTHERS DID THE SAME THING THEY DID IN THEIR FIRST AUDITION. YOUR GONNA PICK YOUR BEST ACT FOR THE FINAL.

Nemesis - took stick for not being completely in time when they had only 24hrs to rehearse their new routine. George had 2 or 3 extra days. YEAH BUT THEY WERN'T REALLY ALL THAT GOOD, I MEAN I CAN'T DO IT BUT THERE WERE BETTER DANCE ACTS LIKE FLAVA THAT DIDN'T GOT THROUGH.

Strike - completely out of time for most of their routine but the judges liked them so it wasn't even mentioned.

The young girl - chose a rubbish song that no-one knows, which is why she didn't win. Song choice not mentioned. GLAD A SINGER DIDN'T WIN.

Andy Muir - they slated his song choice then it came out that he didn't choose it. AH BUT HE LISTED A NUMBER OF SONGS HE WOULD SING FOR THE SEMI AND FINAL AND THAT WAS ONE OF THEM SO IF HE DIDN'T LIKE IT WHY DID HE LIST IT AS ONE OF HIS CHOICES.




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The whole thing was rigged, just goes to show how much the ITV production team can influence the whole show.

Is anyone going to tell me that the stage set was all George Sampson's work? Of course not. But take away the lavish stage set and in particular the water fall and what are you left with? An ordinary dance routine. The water accented the whole routine very heavily, without it what are you really left with?

Contrast that with Andrew Muir who was given very little, plus was told what song to sing (notice he was shut up as soon as he tried to say he didn't choose the song?) and the guy was given no chance.

Having said that, apart from the flame effects, the all girl string quartet played a faultless blinder without big production effects, dancers etc and should have walked it by a country mile. How they didn't win it is beyond me. They had more talent than the rest put together and may well demonstrate their case by going on to a more successful career than any of the rest. Time will tell.

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Crofty, you haven't commented on the glaring inconsistencies in the judging though.

Did every semi final judge vote go down to a deciding vote? Yes. Did the judges confer before making their decisions? Yes. Should they have done? No.

I think everyone has been brainwashed by the Cowell money train.

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the all girl string quartet played a faultless blinder without big production effects, dancers etc and should have walked it by a country mile. How they didn't win it is beyond me.



I assume because me and most of the people i have spoke to all just think 'Bond' when they hear it. It wasnt unique in the slightest. Bond brought it back when it has slipped out of radar, now bond has passed and slipped out of sight these girls are bringing it back. Sadly its all been done before and i think they played all the same songs as bond plays, nothing new and exciting or what hasnt been heard before.
I suppose everyone has there own opionion though and thats mine.


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The young girl - chose a rubbish song that no-one knows, which is why she didn't win. Song choice not mentioned.



Um, I think Ave Maria is pretty well known actually.

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The young girl - chose a rubbish song that no-one knows, which is why she didn't win. Song choice not mentioned.



Um, I think Ave Maria is pretty well known actually.



Yeah, very well known.
I just think she or andrew jonston didnt win as it would just be a repeat of late year will me potts, maybe the public are looking for summin different this year. Im sure Mr Cowell will be on the phone to her and her parents soon to sign her up.

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Did every semi final judge vote go down to a deciding vote? Yes.



Incorrect. Andrew Muir picked up all 3 votes when up against Jeremy Lynch.

You've probably got some points in there, but I think your conspiracy theory is a bit OTT. Probably more a case that acts that went well, it's natural to pick up on positives. Acts that don't go so well, you're going to pick up on the negatives. I didn't think Nemesis were all that good (I haven't seen them before bar the odd brief clip). To be fair, Simon did say that considering the time they had available, they'd done very well.

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The whole thing was rigged, just goes to show how much the ITV production team can influence the whole show.

Is anyone going to tell me that the stage set was all George Sampson's work? Of course not. But take away the lavish stage set and in particular the water fall and what are you left with? An ordinary dance routine. The water accented the whole routine very heavily, without it what are you really left with?

Contrast that with Andrew Muir who was given very little, plus was told what song to sing (notice he was shut up as soon as he tried to say he didn't choose the song?) and the guy was given no chance.

Having said that, apart from the flame effects, the all girl string quartet played a faultless blinder without big production effects, dancers etc and should have walked it by a country mile. How they didn't win it is beyond me. They had more talent than the rest put together and may well demonstrate their case by going on to a more successful career than any of the rest. Time will tell.



Yeah ok, some good points in there. George wasn't the only one to benefit though. A lot of the acts (definitely Signature from memory) had the benefit of extra dancers and stuff. Whilst Andrew Muir wasn't given very much, neither were the two young singers. One of them came 3rd, and I'd bet the other was not far behind in 4th.

I also thought Escala were really good. I guess they might not be quite so popular as people like Vanessa Mae and Mylene Klass have already done the "sexed up classical music" thing. I loved the look of their instruments (genuinely - no innuendo meant there).

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