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The young girl - chose a rubbish song that no-one knows, which is why she didn't win. Song choice not mentioned.

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Um, I think Ave Maria is pretty well known actually.

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The young girl - chose a rubbish song that no-one knows, which is why she didn't win. Song choice not mentioned.

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Um, I think Ave Maria is pretty well known actually.

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Incorrect - that was her semi final song which she won.

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I don't understand your comments Turpin. I actually thought it was a really good final.

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I wasn't commenting on the quality of the acts, it's the biased comments from the judges. If they like the act then they will glaze over the mistakes to influence the audience. It's just littered with inconsistencies (basically assessed by how much money Simon Cowell thinks he can make from them), for example...

George - should have been slated for not coming up with a new routine.

Nemesis - took stick for not being completely in time when they had only 24hrs to rehearse their new routine. George had 2 or 3 extra days.

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The whole thing was rigged, just goes to show how much the ITV production team can influence the whole show.

Is anyone going to tell me that the stage set was all George Sampson's work? Of course not. But take away the lavish stage set and in particular the water fall and what are you left with? An ordinary dance routine. The water accented the whole routine very heavily, without it what are you really left with?

Contrast that with Andrew Muir who was given very little, plus was told what song to sing (notice he was shut up as soon as he tried to say he didn't choose the song?) and the guy was given no chance.

Having said that, apart from the flame effects, the all girl string quartet played a faultless blinder without big production effects, dancers etc and should have walked it by a country mile. How they didn't win it is beyond me. They had more talent than the rest put together and may well demonstrate their case by going on to a more successful career than any of the rest. Time will tell.

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I don't understand your comments Turpin. I actually thought it was a really good final.

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I wasn't commenting on the quality of the acts, it's the biased comments from the judges. If they like the act then they will glaze over the mistakes to influence the audience. It's just littered with inconsistencies (basically assessed by how much money Simon Cowell thinks he can make from them), for example...

George - should have been slated for not coming up with a new routine.

Nemesis - took stick for not being completely in time when they had only 24hrs to rehearse their new routine. George had 2 or 3 extra days.

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You talk some rubbish.

George's routine looked different to me, if it wasn't then it doesn't matter 'cos it was still unbelievable. How could you slate his performance? The song Paul Potts sang in the final was the same as the audition, he won so clearly the way to go.

Nemesis clearly shouldn't have done a new routine 'cos they weren't as good as their semi!

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The young girl - chose a rubbish song that no-one knows, which is why she didn't win. Song choice not mentioned.

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Um, I think Ave Maria is pretty well known actually.

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Incorrect - that was her semi final song which she won.

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The young girl - chose a rubbish song that no-one knows, which is why she didn't win. Song choice not mentioned.

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Um, I think Ave Maria is pretty well known actually.

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Incorrect - that was her semi final song which she won.

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She sang Ave Maria in the final!

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The whole thing was rigged, just goes to show how much the ITV production team can influence the whole show.

Is anyone going to tell me that the stage set was all George Sampson's work? Of course not. But take away the lavish stage set and in particular the water fall and what are you left with? An ordinary dance routine. The water accented the whole routine very heavily, without it what are you really left with?

Contrast that with Andrew Muir who was given very little, plus was told what song to sing (notice he was shut up as soon as he tried to say he didn't choose the song?) and the guy was given no chance.

Having said that, apart from the flame effects, the all girl string quartet played a faultless blinder without big production effects, dancers etc and should have walked it by a country mile. How they didn't win it is beyond me. They had more talent than the rest put together and may well demonstrate their case by going on to a more successful career than any of the rest. Time will tell.

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You're like Turpin, talk rubbish!

How do you know George didn't do his own work, even without the water it was still incredible dancing.

Andy Muir was crap, end of. A good singer can sing anything.

Escala are hot. And they were very good and could have won but to say by a country mile and that they have more talent than all of them put together is complete rubbish. I'd say they didn't win partly to do with the fact they are all posh girls who grew up in great conditions unlike someone like George who's family are clearly poor and to win will change his life to the extreme. The public vote for talent but also for the stories. Saying that, Sulemon from Signature is a trainie lawyer, so he's not going to be exactly poor for the rest of his life!

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I don't understand your comments Turpin. I actually thought it was a really good final.

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I wasn't commenting on the quality of the acts, it's the biased comments from the judges. If they like the act then they will glaze over the mistakes to influence the audience. It's just littered with inconsistencies (basically assessed by how much money Simon Cowell thinks he can make from them), for example...

George - should have been slated for not coming up with a new routine.

Nemesis - took stick for not being completely in time when they had only 24hrs to rehearse their new routine. George had 2 or 3 extra days.

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You talk some rubbish.

George's routine looked different to me, if it wasn't then it doesn't matter 'cos it was still unbelievable. How could you slate his performance? The song Paul Potts sang in the final was the same as the audition, he won so clearly the way to go.

Nemesis clearly shouldn't have done a new routine 'cos they weren't as good as their semi!

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Dan, you always miss the point - Nemesis tried to do something different and they were penalised for it, george didn't bother and it wasn't mentioned - that's the issue.

George played it safe - I watched it and I thought I was in a time warp - total deja vu moment. There was a lamp post, umbrella and rain again wasn't there? Oh, so different!!! One Trick Pony!

If I wanted to watch his semi final routine again, then I'd go on youtube.

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The whole thing was rigged, just goes to show how much the ITV production team can influence the whole show.

Is anyone going to tell me that the stage set was all George Sampson's work? Of course not. But take away the lavish stage set and in particular the water fall and what are you left with? An ordinary dance routine. The water accented the whole routine very heavily, without it what are you really left with?

Contrast that with Andrew Muir who was given very little, plus was told what song to sing (notice he was shut up as soon as he tried to say he didn't choose the song?) and the guy was given no chance.

Having said that, apart from the flame effects, the all girl string quartet played a faultless blinder without big production effects, dancers etc and should have walked it by a country mile. How they didn't win it is beyond me. They had more talent than the rest put together and may well demonstrate their case by going on to a more successful career than any of the rest. Time will tell.

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You're like Turpin, talk rubbish!

How do you know George didn't do his own work, even without the water it was still incredible dancing.

Andy Muir was crap, end of. A good singer can sing anything.

Escala are hot. And they were very good and could have won but to say by a country mile and that they have more talent than all of them put together is complete rubbish. I'd say they didn't win partly to do with the fact they are all posh girls who grew up in great conditions unlike someone like George who's family are clearly poor and to win will change his life to the extreme. The public vote for talent but also for the stories. Saying that, Sulemon from Signature is a trainie lawyer, so he's not going to be exactly poor for the rest of his life!

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Of course George was helped enormously by the production team and there is no way that the set design was that of a small boy who can giggle about a bit. Like I say, take all that away and what are you left with Dan?

Sorry, Musicians Union stands strong here, Escala are more talented than the lot put together and as I say time will tell who has the most enduing and successful career off of the back of this farce of a show.

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