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nathan8 wrote:

Just noticed we've got Villa next. What's the betting that Gareth Barry scores?

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I think the game will be a good excuse for MO'N to drop him. The pass he gave away for Stoke's winner on Saturday was awful..

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nathan8 wrote:

Just noticed we've got Villa next. What's the betting that Gareth Barry scores?

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Eakes wrote:

The Andy Reid ones were laughable.

We had an interesting one in our game on Saturday that I got rather animated about (apologies Nath!) but having chatted to JP about it afterwards think the ref got it right.

The SAS player passed the ball forward and our lino flagged for offside. In the meantime though our player handballed the ball. The ref gave SAS a free kick.

I argued that the offside was the first offence so should have been our free kick.

What JP was saying was that because the ball did not arrive at the offside player, he was technically not active so therefore was not offisde.

Your thoughts??

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Eakes wrote:

Gonna have to ask the Oracle - Chris, your thoughts?

Turps, if he's not on the messageboard at the moment, can you ask him when you next see him?

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iwenttoistanbul wrote:

Anyone watch MOTD2 tonight? Especially Chris Foy's performance in the Sunderland Man City match? He missed 3 of the clearest fouls you are ever likely to see, 2 of them worthy of bookings - one of those could have been red. The most unbelievable moment was when after Reid had hacked down Jo (I think) and then straight away hacked down Corluka, you could lip read Foy - 'No foul'

You could also lip read Mark Hughes - 'Unblievable'. Says it all.

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Eakes wrote:

We had an interesting one in our game on Saturday that I got rather animated about (apologies Nath!)

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Eakes wrote:

We had an interesting one in our game on Saturday that I got rather animated about (apologies Nath!) but having chatted to JP about it afterwards think the ref got it right.

The SAS player passed the ball forward and our lino flagged for offside. In the meantime though our player handballed the ball. The ref gave SAS a free kick.

I argued that the offside was the first offence so should have been our free kick.

What JP was saying was that because the ball did not arrive at the offside player, he was technically not active so therefore was not offisde.

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Without looking up the rule and going on instinct, I would have given the offside.

You could say that the attacker is active because the defender has handballed it to stop it going to them.

And I think as a referee, if you weren't sure, the best decision would be to give the offside as it minimses the risk of potential confrontation. For example, if you'd given the free kick for the handball and they had scored from it, you would have had the defender confronting you arguing why you didn't give the offside. If you give the offside in the first place, I don't think the attacking players would argue as much as I don't think they'd know enough about the rules to disagree with you!(not that that stops players anyway!)

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