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e) Bond's car makes 1 appearance. You don't see it again and there weren't any gadgets that he used from Q. Granted he's dead in real life but why aren't they doing that anymore.

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Bought Quantum of Solice yesterday as it was only £7 in Tesco. What a poor Bond film. I was well disappointed.

a) No real story line to folow, just seemed to be about selling oil, which for a Bond film is a poor story, it should be about a villain wanting to take over the world/destroying most of it.

b) Crap villain. Some weedy guy who looked nothing like a proper Bond villain.

c) Bond never said 'Bond. James Bond'. You have to have that in a Bond film to make it a Bond film. He said it in the last one but right at the end, which fair enough, he'd only just become Bond.

d) The clip of Bond's sillouette walking and then shooting the camera with blood streaming down and then the classic Bond music was done with the credits. This should be done at the beginning of the film! And you should hear the music at numerous points throughout the film!

e) Bond's car makes 1 appearance. You don't see it again and there weren't any gadgets that he used from Q. Granted he's dead in real life but why aren't they doing that anymore.

f) The 1st scene of a Bond film should be a massive scene as it has previous. Take Goldeneye for instance, what a great opening scene. This one was poor and little happened. It should leave you saying 'wow'.

Bond doesn't feel like Bond anymore, just another action film. Previous Bond's before this one and the last one felt like Bond films. They are destroying the title.

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c) Bond never said 'Bond. James Bond'. You have to have that in a Bond film to make it a Bond film. He said it in the last one but right at the end, which fair enough, he'd only just become Bond.

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Bought Quantum of Solice yesterday as it was only £7 in Tesco. What a poor Bond film. I was well disappointed.

a) No real story line to folow, just seemed to be about selling oil, which for a Bond film is a poor story, it should be about a villain wanting to take over the world/destroying most of it.

b) Crap villain. Some weedy guy who looked nothing like a proper Bond villain.

c) Bond never said 'Bond. James Bond'. You have to have that in a Bond film to make it a Bond film. He said it in the last one but right at the end, which fair enough, he'd only just become Bond.

d) The clip of Bond's sillouette walking and then shooting the camera with blood streaming down and then the classic Bond music was done with the credits. This should be done at the beginning of the film! And you should hear the music at numerous points throughout the film!

e) Bond's car makes 1 appearance. You don't see it again and there weren't any gadgets that he used from Q. Granted he's dead in real life but why aren't they doing that anymore.

f) The 1st scene of a Bond film should be a massive scene as it has previous. Take Goldeneye for instance, what a great opening scene. This one was poor and little happened. It should leave you saying 'wow'.

Bond doesn't feel like Bond anymore, just another action film. Previous Bond's before this one and the last one felt like Bond films. They are destroying the title.

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I like the new bonds the last bond film CR is my favourite and this one I enjoyed, not as much but it was always going to be up against it with CR being so good. The last bond was the first in that he became Bond - they are reinventing the franchise and there isn't anything wrong with that. after the tosh that was Die another Day with CGI and Overload on gadgets and invisible cars it needed redirection.

i think the Gadgets will come back (hopefully not too much) and the theme will start to be reintroduced going forward, these two films are about reinventing Bond and I think they have done that and done it well. I agree about the opening scenes but it wasn't that bad just wasn't wow, but afraid to say other than a Brosnans films the opening scenes never had a wow factor.

Daniel craig has brought back a gritter more cold bond like connery was early on and it needed it, also DC does most of his own stunts which makes the film look quality and not fake as where a CGI PB surfing on some metal with a prachute is what really killed Bond.

QOS has to be seen as part two to CR and then it is a good film. It also has a great setup going forward. From what I gather Bond is now gonna be the hardened womaniser we all know and love with Vesper gone and he now has a new enemy to replace spectre in this new Organisation "Quantum" who put a much more realistic take on how to get world domination not just aim a nuclear weapon at America. the story in QOS was about revenge and him getting over Vesper and putting an end to that story. it was Also about Water not Oil so not sure what film you watched.

Green was a good enemy he had a hard edge to him but did look puney.

Hopefully the next one will really launch Bond back into the old style but hopefully being a bit more realistic than previous Bonds.

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e) Bond's car makes 1 appearance. You don't see it again and there weren't any gadgets that he used from Q. Granted he's dead in real life but why aren't they doing that anymore.

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Didn't John Cleese take over from the now deceased Q?

I didn't like QoS much either.

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e) Bond's car makes 1 appearance. You don't see it again and there weren't any gadgets that he used from Q. Granted he's dead in real life but why aren't they doing that anymore.

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Didn't John Cleese take over from the now deceased Q?

I didn't like QoS much either.

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Isn't John Cleese now dead?

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[I hope you're right and they do get better because QOS was poor, CR was ok. I thought it was oil, he killed the English girl and covered her in oil and then Bond left him in the dessert with a can of oil. Shows that the story wasn't clear enough!

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I'm looking forward to going to see Know1ng, looks quality.

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It has a fairly good rating on IMDB.

It's about time Nic Cage made a decent film. National Treasure, Next and Ghost Rider all sucked.

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