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Just saw this news and thought I'd start a thread for the new season

Stupid idea

Don't agree with this. The points system awarded drivers for consistency. Last season Massa won the most races with 6, if that was enough to win it this season, then he could not finish in 11 races and win the championship, I don't agree with it. If someone like Massa or Hamilton is lying in 12th place with say 10 laps to go, then last season they would have absolutely gone for it to try and get as high as they could in the positions, but this season, they won't go as hard because they know they can't win the race. I know it says that if there is a tie on wins then the points will count but I don't think you'll see the same intensity with a driver pushing for 8th place.

Plus, if you come to the last 2 races but Hamilton is already 3 wins ahead, then there cannot be an exciting finish like last season as the last 2 races will be pointless.

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Proof that F1 is a numpty "sport". End of.

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Proof that F1 is a numpty "sport". End of.

Shut up Eakes, get of this thread :livid:

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Proof that F1 is a numpty "sport". End of.

Seconded, I read that using the new system Nigel Mansell would have won 2 more world titles.

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Fi has now dropped below cricket in sports I like. Yes that's right Eakes given the choice i'd watch cricket instead of F1. Jeez I hope sky has beach voley ball on this summer!

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Dan, I agree - Ecclestone's gone nuts. There's enough change this season with the new regulations. No need for dumb rules like this. It's like they had nothing else to do so decided to change something for no reason.

Still, first race in Australia, on BBC 7am 29th March. Looking forward to it.

After Braun's testin where Button was over a second quicker than anyone else, odds on Button winning Australia are around 10-1. Good bet!

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Dan, I agree - Ecclestone's gone nuts. There's enough change this season with the new regulations. No need for dumb rules like this. It's like they had nothing else to do so decided to change something for no reason.

Still, first race in Australia, on BBC 7am 29th March. Looking forward to it.

After Braun's testin where Button was over a second quicker than anyone else, odds on Button winning Australia are around 10-1. Good bet!

Isn't the Aussie GP earlier than that? I think Brawn team will aspring a surprise but Barrichello is actually faster than Button at the moment.

Hows this Button wins first 3 or 4 races then doesn't finish another GP but wins the last one to win the title - Stupid rules if you win the first half worth of GPs you can sit and watch the rest of them in the stands.

If they had to change it perhaps do it on Podium finishes as at least that is more realistic and possible.

I am confused as to how they will show championship table each week too, is it on wins or points?


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I'm something of an occassional viewer of F1, but I can't believe the rules have been changed in this way.

I agree that consistency should be the key - if one driver finishes 2nd every time and gains the title on points you might say that he doesn't deserve the title as he didn't win any of the races, but I don't see how someone who wins 6 but finishes nowhere in the rest could be considered the best driver.

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I have watch F1 for years and have never seen such swooping changes in rules and regulations before. Some will make the racing more interesting, (will hold judgment on whether it will be more exciting).

Ecclestone was wanting to introduce gold, silver and bronze medals instead of points to determine the championship.

I agree that the fastest driver over the whole season should win the championship, however it looks like there may be more drivers this year with a good enough car to race for wins instead of the usual McLaren and Ferrari dominance. This would mean that a driver may only need to win 3 or 4 races to win the championship. If there are 5 teams, say, Mclaren, Ferrari, Renault, Brawn and Redbull all fighting for victories 2 or 3 race victories would in theory be enough to clinch the championship. (In reality it would probably be a 2 Team 4 driver season, Ferrari and ?)

Like Mansell and Schumacher in past years, a driver could win the first 5 races of the season. Would there be any point in carrying on with the season.

The points system was amended from 10, 6, 4, 3 etc to 10, 8, 6, 5 etc because of Schumachers dominance and meant the season would not be decided with 5 or 6 races to go.

Increasing the gap between first and second would be a much better soluction with points being awarded to the top 10. It would give Force India and the lower teams something to race for.
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iwenttoistanbul wrote:

If someone like Massa or Hamilton is lying in 12th place with say 10 laps to go, then last season they would have absolutely gone for it to try and get as high as they could in the positions, but this season, they won't go as hard because they know they can't win the race.

The constructors championship is still decided purely on points though, so I expect their teams will be putting pressure on them to get in the points in this scenario.

I'm with Eakes and Benjiman though. I lost interest in F1 many years ago. You might as well watch the first couple of corners and then switch off. There's very few exciting races IMO (although I admit you normally get 2 or 3 during a season).

I reckon they should award points for qualifying and the race. Equal points for both (say 5 for 1st, 4 for 2nd etc). Then they should start the race in reverse qualifying order, so the fastest car at the back of the grid. They'd probably need to have some sort of maximum time (as a %age of the quickest time) to stop mid-table drivers deliberately going slow in qualifying to gain an advantage in the race.

That would make things interesting. emoticon

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