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I'm with Eakes and Benjiman though. I lost interest in F1 many years ago. You might as well watch the first couple of corners and then switch off. There's very few exciting races IMO (although I admit you normally get 2 or 3 during a season).
The years of Mansell, Senna, Prost, Berger, Pitrese were much better. I used to watch almost all of the races back then. Now I may flick over occasionally but will never sit down and watch a whole race.
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If someone like Massa or Hamilton is lying in 12th place with say 10 laps to go, then last season they would have absolutely gone for it to try and get as high as they could in the positions, but this season, they won't go as hard because they know they can't win the race.
The constructors championship is still decided purely on points though, so I expect their teams will be putting pressure on them to get in the points in this scenario.
I'm with Eakes and Benjiman though. I lost interest in F1 many years ago. You might as well watch the first couple of corners and then switch off. There's very few exciting races IMO (although I admit you normally get 2 or 3 during a season).
I reckon they should award points for qualifying and the race. Equal points for both (say 5 for 1st, 4 for 2nd etc). Then they should start the race in reverse qualifying order, so the fastest car at the back of the grid. They'd probably need to have some sort of maximum time (as a %age of the quickest time) to stop mid-table drivers deliberately going slow in qualifying to gain an advantage in the race.
That would make things interesting. 
I think Hamilton has brought a bit more interest back to F1 as he does try and race even when behind someone faster so in past two seasons I think it has got better and with young drivers coming through with raw talent like Vettel, Heidfield and Kubica joined with the likes of Alonso Massa Hamilton, Button (hopefully) it makes for a a decent future in F1 especially if cars are being more equal. It should get better but the new rule STINKS as it doesn't really rely on team work over a season more on just Winning a race. Hamilton/schumacher in the past if he was at the back of the field would charge to try and get a point, last year he won the title by a point because he did that, this year if you fluff the start or a pitstop why bother may as well save your car for the next race.
If by the 1st or so pit stop someone is in the clear, then much of the racing will stop. I reckon the rule may change before the season ends can't see it making F1 more exciting only more dull.
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Re: F1 thread
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If someone like Massa or Hamilton is lying in 12th place with say 10 laps to go, then last season they would have absolutely gone for it to try and get as high as they could in the positions, but this season, they won't go as hard because they know they can't win the race.
The constructors championship is still decided purely on points though, so I expect their teams will be putting pressure on them to get in the points in this scenario.
I'm with Eakes and Benjiman though. I lost interest in F1 many years ago. You might as well watch the first couple of corners and then switch off. There's very few exciting races IMO (although I admit you normally get 2 or 3 during a season).
I reckon they should award points for qualifying and the race. Equal points for both (say 5 for 1st, 4 for 2nd etc). Then they should start the race in reverse qualifying order, so the fastest car at the back of the grid. They'd probably need to have some sort of maximum time (as a %age of the quickest time) to stop mid-table drivers deliberately going slow in qualifying to gain an advantage in the race.
That would make things interesting.
Since Hamilton came onto the scene, the majority of races are exciting.
What do we reckon on the new system where the driver with the most wins, wins the championship?
It's designed to encourage overtaking apparently although I'm not so sure.
Surely it would be a huge injustice if the driver with second largest amount of wins has considerably more points?
Either way, F1 is worth watching again just for Lewis Hamilton. The guy is a phenom 
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We've had too great season in 07 and 08 so why change something that's not broken!?
You could end up getting some controversial team decisions. Say Hamilton is leading and Raikkonen is 2nd but has no chance of winning the championship as there are 2 races left. Massa is back in 8th so can't win this race but is 1 race ahead of Hamilton. Ferrari will just tell Raikkonen to 'accidently' crash into Hamilton!
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With all this talk of "If the changes had been made earlier who would have been World Champion" the interesting thing is that since the 10 points for a win rule came in the only result that would have changed was Hamilton/Massa last year. So, if they wanted to ensure that winning races gained more focus then they could have just upped the points for a win to 15 or something like that?
Also, Ecclestone annoyed me when I read this morning that he thinks that the new rules mean Button could have a chance at the Championship.
Ecclestone = idiot
His theory is that the Brawn looks ahead of the game now but will be caught up later on so Jenson could win 3 races early on and have a championship lead which would need to be caught by others whilst he slips further down the field. That's not a World Champion. :livid: :livid:
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Jenson Button sucks
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I think it would be better for 1st place to be rewarded more than just 2 points more than 2nd. Like Ben said, maybe 15 points for a win, would give drivers more incentive to win.
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Used to enjoy F1 but not so much anymore. Surprised that so many people dislike the rule changes though, as I think it should make the season more interesting.
Dan points out in his first post that points should be awarded for consistency. I'd argue that this is one of the things that has made fans switch off over the past number of years. People want to see drivers race for a win rather than just to try and defend a position. I've seen too many races where the final laps have simply been a case of the first few cars not trying to overtake each other for fear of coming off, damaging the car etc. With a win becoming essentially even more valuable, I'd imagine this would happen less often.
Either way, I still probably won't be watching.
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