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The Most Common Cult

Did you know that the most common cult is not the Mormon Church or the Jehovah's Witnesses? It is the "cult of two," more commonly known as an abusive relationship. You may hear of it more as "domestic violence" than anything else; and it is not limited to romantic relationships. Any time one person violates another person's right to think independently and behave independently, that is domestic violence. It includes spiritual abuse, psychological abuse, emotional abuse, social abuse, political abuse, financial abuse, verbal abuse, physical abuse, s_xual abuse, etc. where the abuser exercises complete or nearly complete control over his/her victim. Sounds like a cult . . . because it is a cult . . . a cult of two. This is becoming more and more common these days because cult leaders used to be abused cult members who didn't get the professional help they needed and have followed the typical abuse pattern--the abused become the abusers. Sometimes abusers turn around and abuse the people who abused them; but, more commonly, they abuse innocent people who unfortunately look up to them and in no way abused them. Abusers take evyerthing their victims allow them to take, and their victims often feel powerless to resist them. I've seen this happen in my own family and in all the cults I was ever involved in. And I am now seeing this with a good friend of mine who is behaving like a typical cult member who hasn't yet come to realize how abusive her abuser really is. That is the main reason I began this forum, and I wanted to share a couple of really informative articles I've found so far about the "Cult of Two."

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After much prayer and though and the conviction of the Holy Spirit, I have decided to only post the link to a testimony regarding a typical Cult of Two.

http://www.sendcoffee.com/dog-o-matic/cultof2.html

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I thought of copying and pasting a whole article here; but I have been under conviction by the Holy Spirit regarding copyright. So here is a link to a discussion of how Robert Lifton's Eight Points of Mind Control relate to the Cult of Two.

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/291-scientology-activism/cult-test-fantastic-people-trying-recover-cult-29824/

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I am still concerned about the person I used to consider a good friend. Maybe it's the cultic church and the cultic relationship she's involved in that are causing her to treat me like an enemy; but she is not being much of a friend now. I recently emailed her three articles that her primary abuser gave to both of us; and I asked her what she thought of them. I did not hear back from her until I wrote her about something that was entirely unrelated and that she influenced me to become involved in (helping a friend of hers find storage--something she should have done but wouldn't do). This was her response:

that is terrible! However, when people are homeless or almost homeless a lot of times they have the best intentions that they later cannot be good for and I understand that but you need to get your name off that ASAP and cancel the account for your protection! The only # I have for her is ___-___-____ and I only knew her as R____ M____--good luck.

Thank you so much for the happy birthday wishes, that was really sweet. Also, in regard to your questions about demons related to though etc.. read "The Three Battlegrounds" by Francise Frangipane. In chapter 4- A House Made of Thoughts will provide some insight into what was being presented...search for yourself for after what was misconstrued re: my friend, I refuse to engage in conversation with you regarding anything related, hopefully you understand. It doesn't matter what I think, you come to your own conclusions, right or wrong...we all do.

~Dahn

Her response is typical of a cult member: "It doesn't matter what I think." I can see why any student of the Bible might say such a thing--that what really matters is what G-d says. However, G-d doesn't want us to just read His Word and not respond. In a sense, it does matter what we think. What we think determines our destiny and the quality of our life. It also determines what we do with what different people teach about the Bible. I don't have a problem with what the Bible says. I have a problem with misinterpretations of it and with the fact that my "friend" and so many other people mindlessly believe whatever other people say. They don't test the spirits behind every revelation but just mindlessly follow what fallen human beings say. My "friend" is just using this statement as a cop-out. This reminds me of an interaction I had with a member of another cult. I had reminded her of the encouraging things the Bible says about us as believers in the Truth of the Bible and I had mentioned my concerns about the personal well-being of that member; and she responded with, "Doctrinal questions only, please!" As in, "Don't bother showing concern for my personal spiritual, psychological, relational, etc, well-being!" It sounds like, "Don't bother trying to be my friend!" This is so sad! I know cults hurt people; and when I--knowing full well what cults do to people--try to reach out and show genuine friendship and concern, I'm told to either mold myself to the group's expectations or get out. What Dahn says was misconstrued was not actually misconstrued. She is so close to her "friend" (who is really her idol, though she won't admit it), that she "can't see the forest for the trees." He has violated her personal boundaries (all but s_xually) and has treated her like a child and not a friend, and she won't fight for herself or her four-year-old son (who is also under her idol's bad influence).

Yes, Dahn, I understand what you mean about not wanting to engage in conversations regarding anything related to your "friend" and idol. It is typical cult mind control. I just hope you get yourself out of that abusive relationship (hit rock bottom) before you are six feet under. You have basically swapped one addiction for another. Thank G-d you are no longer getting high off of drugs or alcohol. However, you are doing no better getting your highs from abusive groups and relationships. At least for the sake of your son, you need to distance yourself from Tim B___ and Dawn B___. Personally, I don't care if you never call me your friend again. But you don't have the right to put your son through all of this cultic stuff. I've seen it happen again and again. Parents engage in unhealthy behaviors thinking that their children don't notice. But the children do notice; and, though they may want to spare themselves the hell that their parents are engaging in, they end up doing worse than their parents. It happens with drugs and alcohol, and it happens with abusive groups and relationships. Take a huge step back from Tim and Dawn B____ and Total Deliverance Worship Center; and evaluate all of them from an objective point of view. Have your family (including your son's father and paternal grandmother) evaluate them, too; and listen to their concerns. Your eternal destiny and your son's eternal destiny, as well as your family's future together depend on it. If you are not willing to separate yourself from the abusive influences in your life, you may lose not only your son but his father, as well. I don't believe your son's father will want Tim and Dawn to have the influence over you that they've had over you. You have a really tough decision to make; and I pray you make the right one.

Also, re: Francis Frangipane; he is a false prophet who occasionally says something true to G-d's Word. Be careful who you follow, Dahn. Even satan knows how to quote scripture. Even he and his demons can appear as angels of light. What Francis Frangipane is teaching is typical of a cult leader who doesn't want his followers to use adequate discernment because they might quit following him if they do that. Just see for yourself:

http://www.google.com/search?q=Francis+Frangipane,+false+teacher&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7TSHB_en

and

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-Address&rlz=1I7TSHB_en&q=Francis+Frangipane,+false+prophet&ei=duRDSoSBDJXYNpKA9Z4B&sa=X&oi=revisions_inline&ct=unquoted-query-link

and

http://www.google.com/search?q="Francis+Frangipane,+false+prophet"&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7TSHB_en

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