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!!! Brazilian Teen Girl butchers 30 men... FOR REAL!
It seems incredible, but...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2592734/Girl-aged-17-knifes-30-men-to-death.html
What do you think about? As for me, it makes me think over... 
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Re: !!! Brazilian Teen Girl butchers 30 men... FOR REAL!
Think over what? That girls or women killing men in real world? LOL
Here another real life thing about a female killer in Columbia.
http://www.marieclaire.com/world-reports/news/international/female-assassin-colombia
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Re: !!! Brazilian Teen Girl butchers 30 men... FOR REAL!
Think over what can cause similar things. I mean, the younger generation is nowadays growing up surrounded by images of female superiority over men; girls are being raised to be strong, confident, aggressive; there are lot of movies, TV shows, advertisements, ecc. that shows females controlling, overpowering, defeating and killing men - just consider how many clips we all posted here from Youtube, and you can find hundreds and hundreds more there.
It's a growing trend, a flood, a real bombardment aimed to depict the traditional social system, that they call "patriarchal system", as old-fashioned, unfair, obsolete, and to present the "revenge" of females over males, a real "war of the sexes", as fair and desirable. Don't you think that this real brain-washing can induce girls to think that they are probably well on their way to becoming the stronger sex and can induce some of them to behave really as they see every day in the fiction, and to consider it good, too (the Brazilian serial killer girl says she did it "to bring justice"...)?
I always considered F/m violence only as fiction to meet a well-known male sexual fantasy, but now I'm realizing that it risks to be much more than this and I'm afraid that cases like the one of the Brazilian girl are doomed to increase more and more... 
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9/11/2009, 12:07 pm
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Re: !!! Brazilian Teen Girl butchers 30 men... FOR REAL!
I would not view that in that dramatic way, because it's not a really new trend that female became instruments of killing. Lets's have a look at the ex-USSR where female sharpshooter and female soldiers where rather common during WWII, over 800'000 women served in the army. Over 300'000 were on frontline and were familiar with business of killing. The best female soldiers killed far over 100 males, at least 2 of those sharpshooters shot over 300 men. All female sharpshooters together were officially credited with the killing of far over 10'000 Germans, their success were shown in weekly newsreels and presented to the public.
But even because of these facts there was no increase of female violation against male to observe.
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Re: !!! Brazilian Teen Girl butchers 30 men... FOR REAL!
And who can tell that absolutely? After WWII Russia had 50 more years of communism and I really don't think that if a similar thing happened, it would be less than top secret and knew by very few people... Besides, the context is totally different: you're talking about 60 years ago, in a war against an alien enemy, and it's likely that the official numbers could be largely exaggerate.
Anyway, it can be more or less effective, but no doubt, in my opinion, that a big mind****ing operation is currently going on. It's a mix of feminism, left wing ideology, Hollywood scum's stereotypes and vested interests of economic and financial powers, part of a larger design aimed to destroy the traditional social structures and replace with them with something more suitable for globalization. And I think we must be aware of it if we don't want unintentionally to help this plan because of our evil women fantasies...
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Re: !!! Brazilian Teen Girl butchers 30 men... FOR REAL!
Cry about a thousand years worth of fiction and a 100 years worth of movies teaching males that the correct way to solve problems is with violence, a-la "a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do" instead.
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Re: !!! Brazilian Teen Girl butchers 30 men... FOR REAL!
Sorry, what do you mean? I don't understand your message... 
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Re: !!! Brazilian Teen Girl butchers 30 men... FOR REAL!
He means male violence has been widely exhibited and glorified in the arts and entertainment for hundreds of years, and that this has probably led to more misery and pain in the real world than any recent trends in Hollywood to portray women in a similar light.
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Re: !!! Brazilian Teen Girl butchers 30 men... FOR REAL!
Well, it might also be; it's an opinion like mine, though I'm not so convinced - male violence has been often glorified but when against other men (the enemy warrior, the stranger, the villain, ecc.), not against women; on the contrary, in my opinion, traditional societies generally rejected physical violence against women (medieval chivalry, '800's romanticism, "women and children first", and so on) and when it happened it was for religious or political reasons valid for both sexes (female witches were burned just as male heretics). "Common", everyday M/F violence (wifebeating husbands, killers of prostitutes, rapists, ecc.) has never been glorified and hardly ever not even justified, it happened and that did, and when caught they were punished.
Anyway, the point is the following: even admitting you're right, is exhibiting and glorifying a new kind of violence that you will able to stop the old one? Is proposing to females too the same wrong model that you say has been used for males that things can go better in the future?
Obviously not, only a fool, or some demented radical feminists, could think a similar thing. Be sure that leftists, Hollywood scum, economic and financial powers don't think so; they "just" aim to overturn and destroy the traditional social system that has been ruling our lives for centuries in order to have more chances to pursue their interests and to establish their own model of society - a deeply sick one, in my opinion.
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Re: !!! Brazilian Teen Girl butchers 30 men... FOR REAL!
Don't we have a "no politics" rule in discussions? Because I'm pretty sure we do, for this exact reason.
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Re: !!! Brazilian Teen Girl butchers 30 men... FOR REAL!
I think you’re searching things which are not there. Feminism don’t aim for violence against men – ………………………..and I’m curious from where you got such thing? As long as women earn ¼ less the money than their male counterparts for the same work things will run “your” traditional way – so don’t care. The first aim of feminism is the equality of male and female in working life and social environment not to build a picture of female who kill men like movies or that board does. And I don’t think that an increase of shown female violence against men would help here to reach their goal. My opinion about the increase of F/M violence in media is simply F/M violence is a fascinating thing and it’s to 99% exclusively enjoyed by male – not by female. How long Hollywood tried to draft the fascinating new picture of a gun toting woman? Since 30’s last century, but without that success. Later on there were some exotics like early western movies, Russ Meyer and Andy Sidaris who tried to make F/M violence socially acceptable, but those movie tries still raked the b- and c-movie status. And who stored those movies? Males. About the new appear of F/M violence in the 90’s and later I think that that violence still exists to satisfy male phantasies and has nothing to do with feminism. For movie makers the last years became much more easier to show F/M violence because of the greater social tolerance to show off fetishs and/or sexual stuff.
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Re: !!! Brazilian Teen Girl butchers 30 men... FOR REAL!
Thread closed. Attempts to ressurrect it will be met with swift reprisal.
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