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SoDoneLurking
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Re: Breast vs. Bottle Feeding
My rented one is the newest, bestest Medela on the market..it has some microchip or something in it...but SERIOUSLY I can't get enough to cover the bottom of the bottles I'm pumping into. It's NOTHING!
Fenugreek is making me feel fuller, but I'm still not producing anything. Grrr...
Baby is so frustrated with me now that she will only eat first thing in the morning and around 5 in the afternoon. She wants nothing to do with that whole waiting for the let-down thing....
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Re: Breast vs. Bottle Feeding
Ok, theres a few things you can try if you feel like doing it:
Pumping:
There is a 'knack' for getting a proper let down so as to have successful pumping - if you can get it then subsequent pumpings just happen
1.Generally - make sure you are eating enough, for b/feeding you need to be eating 2500 - 3000 cals per day
2. drink enough but not excessively - if thirsty drink. if you drink too much your body reduces the fluids it store, if not enough you get dehydrated.
3.before pumping have a hot shower/bath - in the shower massage your breasts to stimulate the milk
4. Eat about an hour before pumping and have a warm fennel drink just before starting
5. Relax, really really try to breathe deeply, close your eyes etc it can also help to imagine *other things* ahem which can help with the let down (i'm too prudish to write them but I'm sure you know what I mean)
6.attach pump and have a picture of your beautiful baby in the pump bag or near you and as the pump is running look at her and feel that you are feeding her and that it is wonderful, she is latched on, she is nursing and geting the benefit of all this milk
7. Let go - really breathe, think of baby and try to let go.
The first times you try this type of routine see if you can get someone else to take baby for an hour and really give yourself the chance to do this. It took me a while but once I got the knack, I would start to get a let down if i heard the any domestic motor!! It's about associating the pump with the let down. Also it's about relaxing and appreciating yourself for the wonderful mother that you are and the goodness you are passing on to your baby. Stress and panic will stop milk let down.
Feeding Baby:
1.again - if you can get a hot shower/bath that's good but sometimes not practical so heat up some warm flannels/face cloths and place them on your breasts
2.Have something to eat and cup of fennel tea beforehand
3.massage breasts/nipples to get milk started before you put her on and spread this milk on the nipple to get her interested. You can also stick the pump on to get the let down and then once you have that put her on
3. have her good and hungry before you put her on
4. Relax, sing to her etc and again focus on the good stuff.
If you're getting fuller with the fennel tea it means you have milk, what's needed is the 'let down'. The let down is very much about letting go, relaxing etc which i understand is very difficult when you are worried about her etc.
Homeopathically the remedy 'Urtica' is very good for milk let down - if you wanted to try that PM me and I'd give you directions.
These are just some tips, the la leche would be wonderful if you can access them where you are.
Sorry for the extensive email!! You are doing a great job with scarlett (wonderful name!!) and she is a beautiful healthy baby. I hope it works out - if i can be of any help just ask.
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Re: Breast vs. Bottle Feeding
All great tips Suzi! 
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SoDoneLurking
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Re: Breast vs. Bottle Feeding
Thanks for the advice.
I should explain that I bring her to work with me. I own a small retail consignment shop (home furnishings). I have gotten to the point where it's awkward to nurse her in the shop because she's getting so big and fidgety. (She was born 4 pounds, 1 ounce...now she's well over 14 pounds). I really WANT to nurse her, but dreaded having people come in during this time.
I think it must have rubbed off on her...because the least little noise and she's off the boob. In fact, now it's to the point where she will ONLY nurse first thing in the am, while she's still sleepy. If I cough or move the slightest, all bets are off, though.
She will NOT latch on at all during the day, so I have gone to bottles...if this child could jump up and down when she saw a bottle, she would rattle the house. She LOVES the bottle. *sigh* As you can see, my five-year-old likes this scenario, too, because she gets to feed her.
She's not teething and refuses jarred baby food (other than like 4 bites). It just appears she's done breastfeeding.
Here's a question, though...do you stop leaking? To the point where a breast pad is completely unnecessary? Even with the Fenugreek (which I take in capsule form), I never leak any more. Is that normal? (Scarlett is my 3rd baby, but I bottle fed #1, and #2 was breastfed, but she quit at 5 months, too...but that was nearly 6 years ago, so I don't remember.
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Re: Breast vs. Bottle Feeding
I thought this was an interesting post for me, as my little one was in the NICU for 3 1/2 weeks, and we had a real struggle teaching him to nurse. He was tube fed for about 2 1/2 months (yes, my dear hubby would put the tube up his nose and down into his tummy for me!) as he learned how to nurse. Through it all I suffered from several breast infections, cracked, sore, bloody nipples, as well as being hugely engorged. But he did eventually learn, and though he still isn't eating as well/fast as my friend's babies, he's doing great. (And as a result of all my pumping, we have about 10 gallons of b/milk in the freezer--any ideas how to use it anyone?!!)
My little brother was also in the NICU for 7 weeks. He had Down's and was never able to nurse, so my mom pumped for 16 months to give him the best mild available! I'm amazed at her pesistance, but it paid off.
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I know several places take donated breast milk but I would imagine there is a procedure to be followed so not sure if what you have frozen would be accepted. My friend breastfed and also pumped and would freeze. She would unthaw a bag and mix in with the cereals and the like.
I cannot image having to place the tube for tube feedings. I am sure if I had to I would do what was necessary but it would sure break my heart haviing to do so. WOnderful that your hubby was so helpful and supportive through this.
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Wow mom you guys are amazing and it looks like it runs in the family - serious kudos to your mom also!
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hello...I'm from another board...decided to pop by. Our son just turned 3 months today.
I agree that a good electric pump is essential. you should keep pumping, because the pumping will help to build your milk supply. Thanks to the pump and my pumping, I'm able to give my son 12 - 14 ounces of breastmilk while I'm at work, and then I breastfeed when I get home to keep the supply up.
However, please don't stress yourself about bottle vs. breast...if the baby likes the bottle, give it to her. whatever...as long as she's eating.
And don't forget to drink lots of fluid and get 500 extra calories more than normal each day.
This is our darling.
Maybe I'll pop by again sometime!
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