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After a day of working on a CGI model - UVW mapping is a major pain - I was preparing to watch Giant Crystal Cave on NatGeo last night, and caught the tail end of the preceeding show. The segment I watched talked about something I'd never heard of; The Great Unconformity.

In Babylon 5, G'Kar tells Sinclair, "There is a hole in your mind." Well, last night, I learned about the hole in our history.

The Great Unconformity is a gap in Earth's history of ~1.2 billion years - or, 25% of Earth's history.

This is not a geologic layer that has no information in it - it is a geologic layer that is ... missing.

From what the show was saying, prior to the gap, the life forms found are bacterial in nature.

Advanced lifeforms don't show up until after the gap.

Life on Earth is pretty much accepted as having been brought about by evolution - something I agree with - yet, this gap in history, a gap between bacterial life and advanced multi-cellular life, is - disconcerting. With this gap, evolution is built on a vacuum.

A guess.

From what I understand from this show, we make a leap of faith to connect bacterial life to advanced life. Just the exact same faith that creationists show, just for a different view.

How can evolutionists assert a basis in fact, when it has just as fatih-based a foundation as creationism?

Again, speaking as someone who agrees with evolution.

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all of it is faith in some way....but the creationists leap of faith has no scientific basis at all, it is the same leap of faith the greeks and the romans and the Aztecs took. as the society became more and more evolved, their "guesses" at how life started became more and more sophisticated. We cannot prove that all life everywhere evolved from single cell amoebas, but it sure beats the hell out of what is second place....Adam and Eve being constructed all at once at roughly the same time as all other animals? nope, that's just too stupid.

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We see examples of evolution all the time today. We may be missing information from the past, yes...who knows...maybe life was planted here from elsewhere. However, the evolutionary process is real in biology.

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Science starts with a hypothesis. Most of the data backs up that hypothesis, but if new and different data comes along they will re-evaluate as needed. You can't say that about creationism.

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Well, as I've posted before, I think Adam and Eve are representative of how early Man dealt with the concept of two sexes. Not that they were real people.

I think, given the spoken word nature of early history, including the Bible, it may have been easier to remember concepts by giving them personas rather than trying to understand the concept and relay it to listeners in a technical sense.

As a result, we - who are not accustomed to spoken word histories or teachings, force the Bible to conform to what we do understand, thus turning it into something that it is not.

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Tom Cruise is right...it was Xenu!!!
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Although I have a science background, I truly believe that our reality is much more complex than we are aware. I think we are viewing reality through a narrow lens. We only have a small portion of the answers.

I believe there are multiple dimensions, and even multiple universes. Perhaps infinite numbers of these things.

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We see examples of evolution all the time today.



Only on a micro-scale. Never macro.

A moth changes enough to have Man call it a new species - of moth.

At which point I wonder if Man simply has the idea of species wrong - maybe it was just a moth and still is.

But, never have we seen a worm subdivide into a vertebrate.

Or, a rabbit hatch from an ostrich egg.

Or, after chrysalis, a gecko emerge from a cocoon.

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we have seen mccain change from a free market de-regulator to someone who thinks banks and corporations should be tightly controlled and regulated by the government. in just the last month or so. like other republicans.

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He has become just another flip-flopper. Said in the debate that if we don't like the plan Obama has, wait and another one will crop up.... and then he pulls the same stuff. LOL senility, I tell ya...speaking of holes....wow

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