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These are ideas that I wanted to get out into the open. Maybe I am seeing this all wrong or maybe they are not something anyone has had a chance to think about. In any case, I suspect it is better that we discuss them than that they turn into the first cabal war of their own accord. I seem to recall that failure to address such issues early on was the historical source of the schism of nearly every major religious movement.
The first has to do with standards. Horse breeders and figure skaters all have ideals that they try to measure up to. We could have ideals of our own. I propose this:
A perfect object collection will consist of an exact copy of every true object depicted in the miniseries The Lost Room, including objects that have remained in room 10, as well as an exact life-size figure of the occupant. Every object will be placed in its pre-event position in an exact replica of room 10.
No one will be held to this standard. It is just an unobtainable goal to strive for.
Here is another thing that will probably be helpful in the future. It pertains to canonicity:
The canonicity of an object will be determined by and only by information that can be directly obtained or logically inferred from the three-part miniseries The Lost Room. No canonicity will be granted to sources outside of the miniseries.
The point of this definition is not to prevent anyone from claiming that something is an object when someone else believes that it is not. On the contrary, the point is to keep anyone from saying that something is not acceptable as on object when there is nothing in the miniseries that precludes it.
What do you think? If the general consensus is that these are hateful ideas, then I recommend that Paul and Chucklbunny delete this topic and we not bring it up again.
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Re: Standards?????
I think I agree with both of you guys which tells me that it's really up to the individual's standards what qualifies as a solid reproduction of an object.
For example, I printed up about 80 tickets before I finally came up with the design I considered "perfect"
Someone less insane might've stopped at 40 and been happy that they had a perfect ticket.
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But that kind of gets to my point. You were obviously after something. You had a standard even if you never expressed it. You were after an exact reproduction of the exact ticket seen in the miniseries. Nothing else would do. You and Chucklbunny are already way beyond the collection I envisioned when I got involved with this. The idea of acquiring the radio was just a wisp of a thought back then. The TV is obviously an object. Will you try to get that? A lot of people have speculated that the car the Weasel drove is an object. Will that eventually be on the list? If not that, then how about the bed? It seems to me that there is only one place this can culminate: all the objects in the room exactly as they appear in the miniseries. Since we don’t know where the objects end and the room begins, that must include the room itself. God help us if we end up trying to clone Tim Guinea or Peter Krauss! I think we should agree to settle for a life-size statue!
Interestingly, I think I have just figured out what the event was: someone trying and succeeding in creating the ultimate object collection. 
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6/26/2007, 9:22 pm
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Let's just hope it never comes to this...
"I've got Peter Krause locked up in my basement. I win!"
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6/27/2007, 9:04 am
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I am so glad this subject is being discussed now as we are essentially starting our collections relatively at the same time.
I remember with great detail of the fiery discussions at the Stargate SG1 costuming site. There were some that assembled their costume to be as show canon accurate to the littlest detail. Their completed costume was butt kickingly impressive since they would give updates of finding parts and spending the money for it. Because of affordability and patience of assembling my costume I belong to the "similar replica faction". I was show accurate to a point then my standard mutated to what I describe as Audience Recognized.
To use the AR standard I would make the disclaimer of not being 100% show accurate; but, you can easily recognize from which show the prop is from. For the most part, viewers of my collections and costumes are still slackjawed impressed.
The Lost Room objects will be my first time I upgrade a collection to be as show accurate as possible. Most of the objects have to be accurate replicas or actual items as Paulv70 previously mentioned. Before I saw the inventory, I was searching for and found a Shinola shoe parade polish tin. I was already making inquiries about it only to discover the Shinola polish object is a bottle. This was the same whoopsie I encountered with the radio. I was searching for vintage radios circa early 60s not realizing the radio was a specific brand.
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Actually, on my way to work today, I was contemplating how long it would be until it was possible to use smart paper and GPS to build a functional version of the Polaroid. A functional version of the pen would be mostly a matter of raw power. A mind controlled version is not more than a few years away—judging from the latest Science journals. There is nothing on the books to date that might support the scissors.
At least we’re all on the same page: we’re completely insane and hell-bent on actualizing the event. I didn’t want to push the idea of a standard. I just wanted to get the issue out in the open. I guess, however, this is going to be sort of like Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla. No limits on weight and no holds barred. If Chuck is already contemplating building the room, I may as well get started on my cloning experiments. Sorry ttevola: you are in for one hell of a series of upgrades.
If anyone happens to shake hands with Tim Guinee or Peter Krause, let me take a swab of your hand…will ya?
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Maybe Cat is very right and this might be the best place to move the Comb discussion to. 
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Just an idea, we'd have to collect two occupants, the old and the new. Which leads me to another question, when Eddie was destroyed, did Joe's clothing automatically become objects along with him?
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