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Rattray Marlin Flake
This month has been my first experience with Marlin Flake and I have have been very impressed with it. However I learned something interesting about it that I want to share with you.
I had noticed that Marlin was lacking the excessively sweet taste that a straight VA sometimes has( McCl. #27 for example), but claims to be just VA. Reading some reviews at T-R I discovered that some had found stickers in the bottom of their can that said the blend was VA, cavendish and perique. Apparently this was done after the blend was moved to K&K in Germany. This explains the taste to me very well because it's just a touch of each, only enough to moderate the VA sweetness.
Personally, I think all three of Rattray's trio of VA flake's are excellent.
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Re: Rattray Marlin Flake
John - it must be coincidence because I've never heard of this until today when I was reading reviews of Va/Per on pipe Smokers Forum.
I do like Marlin but I can't say I've been able to detect perique - I thought it was just a good matured Va.
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Marlin Flake does not have perique in it. Its a blend of differant kinds of va's Some are spicey and some aren't. Not all va's are the same and can taste quite differant and smell differant . It also depends on how the are processed and blended. Wait till you try Christmas Cheer. That is spicey but that comes from the same plant grown in the same place but they use all oarts of the plant and differant parts of the tobacco plant will taste differant. Some parts are sure sweeter than others and some are spicer and taste differant.
If it does have a stoved va in it that will sure make it taste sweeter. Remember that you don't know how much some of the reviewers have smoked of it or how long they have smoked at all or how much they really know. I've seen reviewers that have smoked only 1 or 2 bowls and then write these long reviews mosy of which is way off base. Also remember that differant body chemistry will effect it and differant moisture content will effect it. When I smoke it I try to get it loaded just before it gets all dry and try to leavejust a little moisture in it. If I smoke it too wet it seems to loose its taste. I have that happen with a lot of tobacos but thats just me LOL
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Re: Rattray Marlin Flake
I going by what they said...that there were stickers on the bottom of the can that said the blend was VA, cavendish and perique(?) Mine doesn't have it, but why would they lie?
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The only thing I've ever seen on the tin like that was "A full red Va". I would love to see a tin with that on it, I have never tasted the canendish or perquie but that doesn'tt mean it isn't there I have only tasted the red va. It makes no differance I still love marlin flake and will continue to smoke it like I have for the past 11 years. It sure is a good smoke isn't it? I also mix it 50/50 with 2015. I read about that in a news letter from NASPC about 5 or 6 years ago. I would honestly check into more to find out for sure. You could send and email to the blender and find out. There should be an address somewhere. Try mike at Mars, as I remember he has some email addy's for things like this.. Anothher good smoke that does have perquie and cavendish in it is the Bulls Eye Flake from PS> That little black dor like thing in the center is the cavendish. That is also a good smoke IMO. Just remember that cavendish is a process that a tobacco goes through to ad sweetness 90% of the time. I've heard of unflavored cavendish but can't remember where or for what. I'll come across at some point. Please let me know when and where you find more about this. TobaccoReviews are all opinions and you have to take most of it with a grain of salt. It is a great place to start looking thats for sure.
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Roger, you are absolutely right, whatever it has in it, it's a damn good smoke. This was my first tin of it and it won me over. I like it better than OG. I am placing my order tonight and hope to get more than 100g but it costs $15 so that may not be possible unless I give up everything else.
I probably won't investigate further. It tastes great and that's what matters. I was just reporting what I read. Like you, my taste suffers from meds I take(12 prescriptions including 2 narcotics and Nurontin). Sometimes it's hard to find anything that tastes good.
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Re: Rattray Marlin Flake
Cavendish Tobacco
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Cavendish is more a process of curing and a method of cutting tobacco than a type of it. The processing and the cut are used to bring out the natural sweet taste in the tobacco. Cavendish can be produced out of any tobacco type but is usually one of, or a blend of Kentucky, Virginia, and Burley and is most commonly used for pipe tobacco and cigars.
The process begins by pressing the tobacco leaves into a cake about an inch thick. Heat from fire or steam is applied, and the tobacco is allowed to ferment. This is said to result in a sweet and mild tobacco. Finally the cake is sliced. These slices must be broken apart, as by rubbing in a circular motion between one's palms, before the tobacco can be evenly packed into a pipe. Flavoring* is often added before the leaves are pressed. English Cavendish uses a dark flue or fire cured Virginia, which is steamed and then stored under pressure to permit it to cure and ferment for several days or weeks.
There are several colors, including the well-known Black Cavendish, numerous blends, and a wide range of flavors. Modern blends include flavors and ingredients such as cherry, chocolate, coconut, rum, strawberry, vanilla, walnut, and bourbon.
Cavendish tobacco originated in the late 16th century, when Sir Thomas Cavendish, commanded a ship in Sir Richard Grenville's expedition to Virginia in 1585, and discovered that by dipping tobacco leaves in sugar it produced a milder and more mellow smoke.
* A typical mix of ingredients would be around 54 percent tobacco, 22 percent water, 8 percent alcohol (Glycerol/Sorbitol) and the rest sugars and specific flavoring (e.g., cherry).
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Thanks for the info fellas. I'm interested in trying this tobacco as I already smoke Old Gowrie and enjoy it very much. When I read that this was its bigger brother in flavour and character I thought this is for me 
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It's to OG like Full Virginia Flake is to Best Brown Flake - I can't imagine anyone not liking it. It does benefit from a bit of drying though.
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