Lights
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Titanic_Related But Didn't Know Where To Put It...
I just found a couple of interesting links...don't know if it would be of any interest to flolks but here they are:
Gigantic Concepts Titanic Dreams
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Thomas Andrews Line
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May/6/2006, 10:05 pm
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Mr Titanic
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Re: Titanic_Related But Didn't Know Where To Put It...
I hardly believe anyone will ever build another Titanic. It's destiny that she sank and remain a part of history. While no longer being a living aspect of a physical world.
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May/8/2006, 11:31 am
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Thomas Dyer
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Re: Titanic_Related But Didn't Know Where To Put It...
I don’t understand why so many people come out with web sites so often saying that they are going to build an exact replica. To start with you could not build an exact replica because it would for today’s standards be dangerous and illegal.
How much money would they make? Probably not much, if anything.
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May/8/2006, 4:42 pm
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Mr Titanic
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Re: Titanic_Related But Didn't Know Where To Put It...
You've got it. The classic ocean liner is a casualty of the jet age.
The reality of the matter is, that people prefer fast and efficient travel, because over time it appears as though we are as a society, conditioned by technological advancement to be time-oriented. A week at sea is hardly anywhere near fulfilling such standards for swift travel. There is no true use for Titanic this day in age considering what she was intended for 94 years ago. She would be very small to serve as a modern cruise ship, and also too small to meet our high-maintence ways. Her popularity on the other hand, is a debatable factor I consider crucial.
Third Class was in 1912 essentially the bulk of a shipping line's profit. This is due to the fact that immigrants entered the United States via Ellis Island through third class travel aboard steamers. The distinction between classes and cost was to attract or take advantage of the desire to immigrate to the US. Also, third class was known to carry in diseases, and aside from receiving what they paid for (regarding luxury) separate dining rooms and segregated area's of the ship were designed to protect upper-class passengers from being infected. Our sanitation standards and medical breakthroughs differ this day in age from their time. Ships, again are not a popular mode of transportation, and shipping lines no longer make a profit off immigration through shipping for that sole reason. The Titanic was actually that one step forward to what we choose to recognize today as a society. Third class is indeed unheard of.
I don't know of anyone willing to pay a decent price to share a cabin with four other people. In reality, third class isn't glamorous, and to people of our mindset, it's a lot worse to cope with what the poor considered the best available to them during their time.
One of the most significant points to consider, however, is also how the Titanic's construction plays into profit. Aside from the fact that she could hardly accommodate enough passengers to compete with other vessels, other characteristics of her size and layout become critical and must be taken into account.
For example, the Titanic was designed to burn coal as a source of fuel. We currently utilize diesel. That would mean that the boiler rooms, and coal bunkers would be of absolute no use to the vessel. Also, her technology of a low pressure turbine and reciprocating engines are not only centered around steam power, but are outdated for our age! Oh, and those funnels... The most recognizable detail of the Titanic's voyage was that she sank. Her watertight compartments went only as high as E Deck... which is insufficient, obviously, and her ability to remain afloat is just as outdated by today's safety and technology standards as her fuel requirements and engine construction. And I haven't even touched on the riveting of her hull! Not to mention bathrooms and comfort demands as well. It's true, for it's time Titanic had advanced facilities, however, how advanced are they compared to what we consider "comfortable" today. Many FIRST class passengers shared bathrooms. Third class had only two large bathrooms for males and females to use. The rooms aren’t nearly as large as those provided on other vessels of our era. So the question is, if we were capable of erecting a true Titanic, would she honestly be that accurate? The answer clearly is no, because requirements and demands have changed since the 1900's. *
*The Titanic's woodwork was also hand-carved. Hmmm..
I'd also like to mention that in James Cameron's film, the staircase had to be enlarged by 16 inches so that two actors could fit going up or down alongside each other. People have grown since.
Just think about it: So many people died on the ship because maritime law was operating on requirements not revised since wooden hulled ships of 10,000 tons! Therefore, Titanic according to law, and her tonnage was carrying a suffiecent amount of boats. Therefore, the ship would have to be altered to not only please current law, but provide room for enough boats while deck doesn't look quite so cluttered.
It all boils down to the most basic logic: Times have changed. It's a shame in some ways. Everyone whats to be first class, even if Titanic is used as a small cruise liner, but that wouldn't make the ship in question what Titanic truly and honestly was in 1912.
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May/8/2006, 5:57 pm
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Mr Titanic
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Re: Titanic_Related But Didn't Know Where To Put It...
[Moderation Notice: Moved thread to proper area]
Nice links Lights, btw! Unrealistic ideas, but they make for an interesting read and fantasy.
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May/9/2006, 8:43 pm
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MurdochsAid
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Re: Titanic_Related But Didn't Know Where To Put It...
To think, Lights & Mr Titanic...James Cameron practically gave new meaning to that film title--Raise The Titanic!, didn't he?  :heyy:
--MA
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May/10/2006, 9:05 am
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Lights
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Re: Titanic_Related But Didn't Know Where To Put It...
Yeah, I thought so, too, Mr Titanic. You are absolutely right in saying that anr exact replica of Titanic is unlikely ever to be built...first there are the SOLAS regulations...where are you going to hide the extra lifeboats? You can't use coal because of environmental concerns (even anthracite [hard coal] will produce at least some smoke. And the laws regarding fireproofing...in a fire most if not all of the older ocean liners would go up like a tinderbox. Then there is the ctraftsmanship of the age...yes a lot of it could be reproduced these days, but much of it would end up being plastics which are even worse than wood when they burn (think: noxious fumes. Then, there is the bridge...of neccesity you would have to have modern navigational euqipment..where would you put it so it didn't create a majorly jarring note.
(You would, of necessity have to have such equipment because I doubt that modern merchant officers would be able to navigate their way out of a wet paper bag without modern aids such as GPS...
I agree, ocean liners are a casualty in the jet age...we will never see their like again...I'm afraid we'll just have to enjoy pictures in books. 
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Jun/16/2006, 3:38 pm
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