Titanic "Ship of Lost Dreams"  First Class Smoking Room   Rev. and Mrs. Carter Rules Topic Search RSS        Register Username: Password: Lights Deck Officer Location: Anyplace on Water Posts: 637 Rivets: 17 (+17/-0)  |  Rev. and Mrs. Carter There was a clergyman travelling in Second Class with his wife and I understand that on that final evening, they led a hymn-sing in the Second Class Dining Room. Both Fr Carter and his wife died in the sinking. For anyone interested, here are their biographies from Encyclopedia Titanica: Fr Ernest Courtenay Carter Mrs Lillian Carter I think no finer tribute can be their epitaph than "No greater love hath a man than that he lay his life down for another" (this goes for Fr Byles as well as the German priest who was also lost). I am struck by the fact that all of the clergy aboard Titanic died in the sinking. What also strikes me about people like Fr Byles, the German priest and the Carters is that they refused seats in the lifeboats so that others might go instead and be saved...and later, to do what they could to offer spiritual consolation for those still trapped aboard the doomed liner, many of whom were crew and Third-Class passengers. I am awed at their courage and have nothing but amiration for them. Last edited by Lights, Jul/12/2006, 12:25 pm Jul/12/2006, 12:19 pm    Mr Titanic Spirit of the Night Location: Gotham City Posts: 1356 Rivets: 13 (+13/-0)  |  Re: Rev. and Mrs. Carter I second that Lights. And your statement (or fact rather) about all the Clergymen on Titanic dying strikes me as compelling. From a religious perspective, perhaps dying in a noble way as they did is not quite as terrible as one likes to think. They truly are remembered and maybe their courage can be an inspiration to our own time. It is stories of preists and pastors risking/offering their lives to carry out their mission on Earth that I find really respect worthy. This also doubles for men on aboard who also stayed behond to serve their purpose as gentlemen. It is a little more difficult for officer's since it is their offical duty, but with these clergymen, it truly shows how dedicated they were. I respect that in anyone, especially them. Jul/12/2006, 5:33 pm    Lights Deck Officer Location: Anyplace on Water Posts: 637 Rivets: 17 (+17/-0)  |  Re: Rev. and Mrs. Carter I'm with you, Mr Titanic...what these men did was way beyond the call of ordinary duty. Those officers who stayed aboard til the end, while certainly not cowards, were doing what duty demanded. The clergymen in question did have an option...to be saved or to die so that others might live. They took the hard option and I believe they should forever be remembered for it. That also goes for all of those who gave up a place in a lifeboat to save others...   Last edited by Lights, Jul/15/2006, 4:26 pm Jul/15/2006, 4:25 pm    Link to us   -  Blogs   -  Hall of Honour   -  Chat      TSOLD's time is: Nov/28/2009, 12:56 am

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