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HOW do you get banned from ISWG?
That's what I said.
She said she couldn't log on anymore.
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Produce, I'm going where ever you go, whether it be glossy or winkly....
god, you're god meaning you're always everywhere where-ever anybody goes.
Perhaps you could find all these missing ISWG people, bring them back to life,
reverse that tragic 2-person funeral affair we just dusted to dust.
Thx for coming darvijen.
Sometimes NOBODY shows up for a funeral. Not even the undertaker.
That's when it really gets weird.
PS: Folks keep karma'ing you. Not to worry.
I SMITE you down back to zero real good. 
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HOW do you get banned from ISWG?
That's what I said.
She said she couldn't log on anymore.
Get more details about the errors/error messages if you can. Perhaps she has an antiquated HOSTS file preventing her from connecting. That's happened before here at
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Get more details about the errors/error messages if you can. Perhaps she has an antiquated HOSTS file preventing her from connecting. That's happened before here at
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Okay Manny. I'll see what I can find out.
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1/4/2005, 7:29 pm
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Produce - Animation could be a very good way to make money. If I did it (which I've considered and haven't ruled out) I still wouldn't do so with a subscription service. 5 million viewers could earn you a reasonable living just from advertising. People expect to see ads on TV and in print, as well as on radio and fortunately, on the web too.
Mr. Deadwords - One could write well and NOT appear in the top 30, that is absolutely true. Best would be $50-$100 for the first month and $20 a month for a year. We have stories a over a year old that still consistently show up in the top 30, but it's rare. A good story would be more like $20 to $30 once and that much again the following month. Since we run 30-90 pieces a month, "average" will likely be zero, as would the worst case scenario. It's still good exposure either way and a chance to make money, where previously no such chance existed.
You will be competing against past articles, other writers, the editors and myself, and I write a lot. I've published about 130 articles in the past six months just on Glossy News with another 160 on Perplexing Times, but this is what I do. I'm not saying I'm the best, I know I'm not. I'm ready for someone to give me a run, specifically, for my money.
Jen - Past stories on the site are not typically eligible, partly because past writers have disappeared, and mostly because this is a business move to increase ongoing quality and writer retention. If a writer is still submitting maybe three or more a month, I'd still pay on the old stuff too. Almost sounds like you have a publicity plan in place for your old stuff?
As far as writers pimping their own articles (telling friends to read it, emailing it to family, submitting the link to places like Madville, Zfilter, Fark, etc,) yes, that's perfectly acceptable and encouraged. What's NOT acceptable is artificially inflating clicks, such as by reloading the page a bunch of times or having it automatically done. I can track that and so can the advertisers. That's the only thing that would ever get a writer banned from Glossy.
When you say Glossy is "pretty reputable" and "miles away from the Spoof" I hope those are both good things. [blush]
I don't ask writers to be exclusive, nor do I think anyone should write for someone who would insist on that. If you're getting a salary and going in to the office every day, I'd say it's okay, but not in this (or any other such online) case.
As far as the site to beat being Pants, it's a matter of opinion. I think Pants is a very different site from Glossy in a lot of ways. Her regular features are not like mine, even her flavor of satire is quite different. I would think it's unfair to compare the two, and I think fans would agree. I don't see one detracting from the other, myself. The satire pie is very big and there's still plenty of room to grow readership on many, many sites before we'd be stepping on one another's toes. I think that's why there's so much cooperation among satire webmasters. At least among the ones I know, and with very few (and unexplainable) exceptions.
To further my example of not requiring exclusivity, Jen still has editor status at my site. It was granted to her because she has excellent command of the genre and to make her wait days or even hours to post her stuff live seemed unnecessary. She has kept that status even though she hasn't submitted anything in quite a many months, and is writing elsewhere.
There's a lot of things going right at Glossy News and still a bunch in need of improvement. Many things have been identified and are in the process of being changed/improved/upgraded now. I'm still open to any suggestions as they come up or as the winds of the internet shift.
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When you say Glossy is "pretty reputable" and "miles away from the Spoof" I hope those are both good things. [blush]
Given my distaste for the spoof and their puritanical censorship rules, the latter is the better compliment. But the former is also complimentary. Glossy has a reputation for generating quality on a daily basis. Not many sites do.
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To further my example of not requiring exclusivity, Jen still has editor status at my site. It was granted to her because she has excellent command of the genre and to make her wait days or even hours to post her stuff live seemed unnecessary. She has kept that status even though she hasn't submitted anything in quite a many months, and is writing elsewhere.
Thank you for these kind comments. I've never fancied myself a great satire writer, mainly because my quantity is so low but every once in awhile I like to think that what I write is more good than bad.
As far as my editorship not expiring, thank you for that as well.
Just curius, how did you find this board?
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Just curious, how did you find this board?
FLEXOS -> Quite interesting considering nobody is really here.
(rim shot)
Sorry. Kind of slow here. Have to go with the
old stuff since nobody's going to read it anyway.
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1/6/2005, 6:46 am
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Thank you for these kind comments. I've never fancied myself a great satire writer, mainly because my quantity is so low but every once in awhile I like to think that what I write is more good than bad.
Your quantity isn't outrageous, but (at least when you wrote on Glossy) your hit-to-miss ratio was second to none. It was like one every 4-6 weeks and every last one quite popular... by the way, I noticed an article of yours unsurprisingly pop back into the top 30 in the last 24-hours... oh you's a clever girl, ain'tchya? 
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Just curius, how did you find this board?
As a routine matter of course I do limited Google Searches for myself with a variety of parameters. When telling the board your history of writing, you mentioned me by name (middle initial and all) and that brought me in. Ah Google, ain't she a grand girl.
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