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Re: No Women please: we're satirists!
Ha, you guys are so funny.
Write some of this sh*t down, damnit. Make it into stories. Don't waste such comedy gold.
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In the spirit of the Michigan women here... I googled "Nude Pickles" and got 39 returns.
Boy JJ, if you would've seen my Urinal Era, you would've seen some crazy sexy pickle pics. 
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My Urinal Area has many pics of naked human women - pickles just don't do it for me...
If they did, I'd start to wonder about you, JJ.
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Re: No Women please: we're satirists!
...anyway...
Basically, in the world of satire you don't really know who anyone is. So claims of women write better satire than men can't be verified really.
The quote given doesn't particularly offend. The webmaster in question could quite easily have continued "...so imagine how surprised I was to discover such a delightful and well written site". And so on.
The statement he gave is quite common in highlighting an unusual exception. "I threw out the book" is not usually an insult but simply a statement that the rules need to be rewritten.
In fact it would be very easy to argue the opposite of Miranda's post. That is, of all the good satire out there, the majority of it is written by men, therefore men are better than women. This is of course wrong. Anecdotal evidence shows the internet dominated by men, and so I'd argue that satire by women is not overlooked, it's just a small proportion compared to that written by men.
I have never seen evidence of male writers who "loathe and envy" female writers.
Nor have I ever come across a male writer who sees women as "nothing more than convenient holes to fill, objects of their puerile sexual fantasies or doting mothers for their children"
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russus wrote:
Basically, in the world of satire you don't really know who anyone is. So claims of women write better satire than men can't be verified really.
True..we've found that out from the sHelium hunt!
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The webmaster in question could quite easily have continued "...so imagine how surprised I was to discover such a delightful and well written site". And so on.
Good point, but then you're not familiar with some of the history behind that quote, Russ. I won't go into that on here coz I don't wanna bore the pants of everyone, but I know the guy who wrote that comment, and trust me, he has a lower opinion of women than that quote might suggest.
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I have never seen evidence of male writers who "loathe and envy" female writers.
Nor have I ever come across a male writer who sees women as "nothing more than convenient holes to fill, objects of their puerile sexual fantasies or doting mothers for their children"
No?
Try this on for size: (from the webmaster of a certain satire 'Awards' site...
"Women can really be a big pain in the ass. No it even your wife or girlfriend, just any women you come in contact with on a daily basis. They all seem to have this "I AM WOMEN HERE ME ROAR" thing. Yet when they see a ******* spider they run for the ****ing hills. AHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Figure out if you want to be treated like a women, or a ****ing psychopathic pathetic mind twisting lunatic.
I thought some other sites were bad, but your one tops the cake for horrid. I heard it is a bunch of feminist women who ROAR all the time across the web about their "Site". You ****ing women who consistantly think that themselves is better then everyone else really ****ing annoy me. You people are the worst. You look down at everyone else and think your piddly little website is ****ing a gift to earth that we should all bow down to your great load OF ****!!"
I admit this guy is more outspoken than some, but what he says out loud a lot of webmasters think, trust me. Pants isn't the only site I've written for. I've had a few run-in's with these wankers!
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I do not believe that gender plays a role in satire writing. Does gender matter in writing novels? or writing short stories? I think not.
Nope. All good points. Ya preaching to the choir hon. But writing online is not the same.
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Does she have a disadvantage at getting her stories published because she's female?
She might if she wants to write the kinda stuff Jen and I sometimes write and Miranda has written. Far as I know Jen tried to get a couple of sites to take her 'shaved beaver' story and none of them would coz they were scared it would lose then some readers or upset their advertisers. Miranda's convinced if her anal scourge story that got her booted off the Spoof had been pro-anal and written by a guy they would have taken it. Same for her pussy-washing story which is just a play on words. But it's OK for guys to publish stories about renting Sluts from Wal-Mart; Glossy News did one a while back, or puerile stories about Jennifer Aniston sucking Brad's D1ck. Can't write about girl's wanking tho or take the piss outta guy's sexual hangups. That's a no no on all these male-dominated sites. You don't see it like that coz you're a guy but we do and we don't much care for it.
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What is to stop her from creating a male personna, thus overcoming the gender obstacle.
Nothing. But that's the whole friggin' point, JJ. WTF should she have to?
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Did Miranda need to "Go Male" to make Utterpants work?
Nope. But then she's got balls and is old enough not to be intimidated by guys or care what people think about her. Also she's British. They're different over there about sex and more used to women being up front about it than us. Most women here are not that tough. Look at Jen. She got busted for her Urinal Era stuff in Pickle Town. I'm not convinced a guy would have been. Or at least he would have gotten off a lot easier.
That's all I'm saying.
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Hmm OK. If a site thinks it will offend their readers / advertisers then that's at their discretion.
In a way I do see where you're coming from, but I think that's probably where utterpants fits right in. If there's an untapped market out there for the kind of stuff others dare not follow, then you'd do right to get into it.
If I can play devils advocate for a while, are you saying that stories about Jen blowing Brad are purile little boys stuff, but stories of Jen playing with her pea are alright?
Or are you saying that there should be a fair share of the two, girl smut and boy smut together?
There's a slight difference you see.
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