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2007 A.M.E.C. Historic Ice Races! February 24th and 25th


Hello Historic drivers and fans,
 
Although it's mid August, the subject of Historic Class Ice Racing is still hot hot hot!
 
As a result, the A.M.E.C. officials have discussed it at our recent monthly meeting and the decision has been made:

We're doing it again for 2007!

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Although it wasn't our initial intention for this to be an annual event, the feedback from the racers from our inaugural Historic Ice Racing event this past February was so positive and persistent, that we feel compelled to do it again this winter. Much to our surprise, our historic ice race driver's enthusiasm has not waned in the off season. In fact, I have been contacted by several people who have acquired, or are restoring cars specifically for this event. Evidently there were quite a few people that had the sit back, wait and see approach for our inaugural event, which was the first of it's kind in the US. Some came to spectate and "test the waters" so to speak. Now after witnessing our inaugural event they are ready to join the fray after seeing how much good clean fun they missed. Exhibition ice driving/racing is an absolutely unique driving experience and combining it with the spectacle of classic sports and compact cars is simply something a true enthusiast needs to take part in at least once in their lifetime! But I must warn, you, it's hard to go ice racing just once. Trust me on this one.
 
How hot is the subject of A.M.E.C.'s unique Historic ice racing event? I have just been contacted by David Wallens and Scott Lear of Grassroots Motorsport and Classic Motorsport magazines. They follow my updates on their message board in regards to A.M.E.C.'s Historic ice racing. They also noticed that my Historic Ice Racing thread there has over 11,000 hits! It can be seen here: Classic Motorsports thread They have offered to put a blurb in next month's Classic Motorsport magazine with a color picture of Bruce Turk's Saab 96 rallye car and an announcement of our 2007 event. Image
 
How hooked are some of last year's participants? I hear from the Historic Racers more often during the summer than from any other class. These guys are pumped!
 
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Rik Rydant's been working on his #41 Saab 96 has a brand new Polar White paint job on it.

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Dan Dobbins has been working feverishly on his #415 Studebaker Lark and just installed a "twin traction" differential. He said the Saabs will be quaking on their studded tires this winter!
 
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Steve Garrett says he can't wait to get his beautiful white #23 Bugeye Sprite back on the ice!
 
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Bruce Turk, the President of the Vintage Saab Club of North America, has once again accepted our invitation to participate in the 2007 Historic class races this winter with his classic Saab 96 rallye car.

We will once again be planning to hold the event on beautiful Lake George. Stay tuned for more details.
 
If there's one message to get across here, it would be to get the old iron out of storage and ready to run now, while the long [and warm] days are here. It sure beats working on your cars on the ice. Several great cars did not make it out last winter because the owners procrastinated. You know what they say.... Get 'Em Running Guys! The weather can only be better for this year's event right?
  
Michael Kamm
A.M.E.C. Historic Race Coordinator

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To read about and view the A.M.E.C. 2006 inagural Historic Ice Racing event click HERE.


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I just got the call this last week from the Lake George Winter Carnival Committee that AMEC has been scheduled for the last weekend in February for our ice races on Lake George. They specifically asked about the Historic Races! Get those cars ready!

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2007 A.M.E.C. Historic Ice Race Rules


The rules for this year's Historic Ice races will be the same as last year's inaugural event. Once again there will be three Historic Class divisions. Those will be based on the tires used. They are a rubber to ice class, a street stud class, and a screw tire class. In other words, all drivers are welcome to choose from any winter tire new or old, studded or not, and can also choose to use the home built "screw tires" A.M.E.C. used years ago before we switched to the purpose built Menard ice racing tire we run today. Menard Ice racing tires will not be legal to use for the Historic class. This is not intended to be a seriously competitive race. It is intended to be an exhibition for fun, although I'm sure there will be some careful, but spirited drives put in by some. Yes, there will be a big disparity between the different cars and tires used, but that's why we will grid the faster classes in front. Refer to the "Gridding" subtitle below.

Three Classes

Rubber to Ice Class:

This one is self explanatory. Any winter tire new or old is legal. Period correct tires are preferred, but if you want to use the new Bridgestone REVO 1's go for it! Tractionizing IS allowed. This is the old days folks. emoticon

Street Stud Class:

This class utilizes street studded winter tires. The number of street studs is limited to 30 per linear foot of tread surface. The old Maxi-Trac studs ARE allowed for this race. Any length stud may be used, keeping in mind that excessive stud projection will cause premature loss of stud.

Screw Tire Class

This class uses the old home built "screw" tires of old. Up to #12 sheet metal screws may be substituted for studs. They must be driven through the tire from the inside and may project no more than 3/16ths of an inch. The number of screws will be limited to 28 per linear foot of tread. Over length screws must be ground down to the proper length. There is a "How To" article on these tires HERE.

Car Eligibility:

This event is open to pre-'75 vintage cars. Some '75 to '79 cars may be accepted. Simply contact me at: mkamm@icerace.com with your request. Street driven and vintage race cars are welcomed with open arms. This race is not limited to former ice racing cars only.

Course Layout:

A.M.E.C. races are run on frozen road courses, approximately 1.5 miles in length.

Gridding:

We will grid the faster screw tire class first, followed by the street stud and rubber to ice classes for safety. We do the same for our weekly street legal no-contact classes. We have found that having the faster cars come up through the pack from the rear is counterproductive to the no contact rule.

Race Format:

There will be a 10 minute morning warm up session for all cars, followed by three 20 minute heat races, all on Saturday February 24th. All three classes race in the same heats. Just like 40 years ago, standing starts will be employed.

Dinner and Awards:
A.M.E.C. will be presenting trophies for the top three finishers for all three Historic classes on Saturday night, A.M.E.C. will be having a dinner and awards presentation. Location: Holiday Inn host hotel [below].

Host Hotel information:

The host hotel for this event will the Holiday Inn Turf- Lake George [right in the village, less than a minute from the lake] http://www.lakegeorgeturf.com/. Hotel Reservations:1-888-HOLIDAY (888-465-4329)
Hotel Front Desk: 1-518-6685781
 
This is where the action will be before and after the races. It is right next door to the Mount Prospect Diner [where morning race registration will be], and where the racers and their families will be dining, including the special Saturday night awards banquet. There is a special low rate for ice racers, but to take advantage of it, you must reserve your room by February 9th to get the lower rate.
 
Anyone considering participating or having any questions is asked to please contact me at: mkamm at icerace dot com or phone (518) 674-0520.

Note:I also have a Historic Class email list that I use for updates. To join the list simply email me at the email address above.

Current Driver's Roster
 
Rubber to Ice class

#67 Sam Patterson, Saquiot, NY, '69 Saab 96 -
#34 Eric Nelson, Longmeadow, MA, '71 Saab 96 V-4

Street Studs

#41 Rik Rydant, High Falls, NY, '66 Saab 96
#112 Brian Hunter, Toronto Ontario Canada, '68 Volvo 122
#35 Tom Baird, Caroga Lake, NY, '72 Saab Sonnett
#12 Ian Lok, Toronto Ontario Canada, Volvo 122
#11 Tom Cox, Woodstock, MD, 1970 Saab 96 V-4
#415 Daniel and Richard Dobbins, Long Island, NY, '62 Studebaker Lark
#42 Mike Space, '59 Volvo 544, Coopersburg, PA
#1 Casey Creamer, Burdett, NY, '69 Alfa Romeo Berlina

Screw tires

#96 Bruce Turk, Walden, NY, '61 Saab 96 Rallye Car
#23 Steve Garrett, Philly, PA, '60 Austin Healy Sprite
#7 Mike Kamm, Averill Park, NY, '77 Datsun B210
#00 Nick Julian, Baldwinsville, NY, Saab 96 V-6

Online registration form is HERE.

Registration is open and all are encouraged to sign up for this event. You can print them out, bring them with you, and present them to me on the ice on Friday, or at Saturday morning's regular race registration in the Mt. Prospect Diner [next door to the Holiday Inn host hotel]. There is no need to send any money now, but please email me or call me at (518) 674-0520 and tell me your coming. I want to keep a current log of entries for this event on our message board. I also need to know what car number you will use. And if you can, please email me a digital picture or two with a little info about your car to mkamm at icerace dot com.

Thanks,

Michael Kamm
Historic Ice Race Coordinator

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I open the November issue of Classic Motorsports Magazine and look what I see on page 11.
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Also, the Volvo picture in the above post is on page 29 in the "Ranwhenparked" column.

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Thanks for letting us know Mark. emoticon

That's a bigger piece than I was expecting. It looks great. The guys at Grassroots and Classic Motorsport are true car enthusiasts. I am glad they are supporting our event.
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Looks good...did they give me photo credit?

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I can't tell from the picture Mark posted, but I know I asked them to. However, they might be about to give you more than that. Editor Scott Lear requested your home mailing address today. My guess is you've got a free subscription on the way. emoticon
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It will be interesting to see what arrives in the mail. Anything they do would be a nice gesture, that is for sure. I was not aware you had my mailing address....guess you save everything LOL!!!!

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I keep in touch with the Historic racers throughout the year and my last communication with the list spurred this reply from former A.M.E.C. ice racer, Les Bradford. In it, he recollects the good old days from Lake George and elsewhere in the mid 60's.

Thanks for the memories Les!

Michael,

This event announcement brings back great memories !

I raced a SAAB 96 750 GT ( no studs, screws na nuthin just rubber on ice ) in Maine, Massachusetts and with AMEC. Had surprisingly average results considering my "outstanding" driving skills. One time at Lake George, AMEC had to put sand on the corners to keep competitors within NY state. There was no snow on the ice and it was a red traffic cone circus. The start was interesting too. We made standing starts then. Picture about thirty cars lined up and virtually standing still for about one minute after the flag fell. It was definitely not a "Power Race." That's when someone went for the sand truck. Hope I can make it out to see, hear and smell the 2 stroke fun again this winter!

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Peru, NY

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Rick Rydant's 2-stroker Saab 96 is ready to go!


Rik sent me these pictures of his white #41 Historic Class Saab ice racer back in the summer. As you can see, he had been working very hard on the body of it, and it was about ready for a fresh coat of the original Polar White paint to finish it off.

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Well now it is all painted up and ready to go!

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Rick is an example to us all. He heeded my advice and has been working on his Saab in the warmer months and has it completely ready to go for the 2007 A.M.E.C. Historic Ice Races this February.







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